ERS and price blocking
Can any one confirm that MRRL (ERS settlement) will block an invoice for price during the settlement? If this is possible what is the trigger?
I have not experienced this in the past but have a current example that at least for now looks like the settlement blocked the invoice. We haven't replicated this nor have I looked at it in much detail, just wanted to understand from this group if anyone has any experience with ERS blocking invoices.
Thanks
Sandra
for consignement it is MRKO...........that cycle is completely different........
but as a refresher I will suggest you one thing.....this was my earlier reply to earlier thread..........
The example displays the tolerance limits for price variances for an estimated price. If the purchasing department flags the order price as an estimated price in the purchase order, these tolerance limits are checked at invoice receipt. Both a percentage and an absolute variance are set for the upper and lower limits. If one of these limits is exceeded, the system displays a warning message. If one of the upper limits is exceeded, the invoice is blocked for payment when it is posted.
If you generally do not want to block an invoice item on the basis of a particular variance, you must set all the tolerance limits to Do not check. For example, you would not want to have the system check for quantity shortfall if you often receive invoices for part quantities.
If you want to block an invoice item on the basis of a particular variance in all cases, set the value and percentage for the upper limit to zero and select Check limit.
You can define up to four limits for each tolerance:
Lower limit
Absolute
Do not check
Check limit: X
Value: 20.00
Percentage
Do not check
Check limit: X
25 %
Upper limit
Absolute
Do not check
Check limit: X
Value: 10.00
Percentage
Do not check
Check limit: X
10 %
both these values are in reference of the estimated price.
If in figures absolute and if in %ge Percentage in context of estimated Price
Regards
Ankur
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Even if there are quantity and prices blocks in the MM doument , the MRBR list doesnot display the blocked documents.
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I got the help from forum at which point it is get blocked and obviously during miro.
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2) quantity variance say PO-100unit GR-80unit IR-80unit
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Thanks1) quantity variance say PO-100unit GR-80unit IR-50unit
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2) quantity variance say PO-100unit GR-80unit IR-80unit
this will NOT get blocked as IR and GR the same. correct?
3) price variance compare the unit price between PO and IR only. correct?
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Edited by: RK.SAP on Nov 17, 2010 7:02 AMhi,
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3.The accounting document is already created for the invoice.Does this mean the invoice is already posted?If yes, does it mean it is possible to post an invoice even if some of its items are blocked?Hi
If invoice currency (say USD) is different from PO currency (INR), then you can enter invoice currency (USD) in invoice under basic data tab -next to amount field. Then PO currency (INR) will be calculated with invoice currency (USD) exchange rate on that date and new value will be proposed in USD.
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Lets assume i have a PO for Qty 10 and price 10000
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If gr based iv no flag and over tolerance, if there is difference in quantity or price, the posting will post to price difference. Now my question is will variance cause block when gr based iv not flagged?
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In case of GR based IV not ticked means it is PO based IR. In this case you can post IR before GR but the payment is blocked even if the qty and price are same as per PO as their is no qty received
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Hi All,
Plz can anyone of u say how can i identify whether its Qty Block or Price Block in the Invoice.
Eg : I Have PO Qty 1.00 & Price 1,653.24.
I have Inv Qty 1.00 & Price 1,717.24.......
So can you me is this a Qty Block or Price Block ....or both ( Since my Invoice has both the Blocks)
Regards
BalajiHi ..
Thanks for the Immd Reply......The Issue is i got the Invoice as Blcoked.
When i see in the Line item of the Invoice i see the Blocking Reason to be both
Price and Qty. But the Above values shown are my Po & Inv Values. So what i am trying to find is how i can identify what kind of a block looking at the Docs .
How a Qty Block Appears & How a Price Block Appears????Say in the example above which i wrote for Qty 1 i have more price ,,, So is it a Qty Block or Price Block????
Regards
Balaji -
Hi
Can any one explain me the significance of absolute value and percentage value in price block tolerance limits?
Thanks
RajeshThe example displays the tolerance limits for price variances for an estimated price. If the purchasing department flags the order price as an estimated price in the purchase order, these tolerance limits are checked at invoice receipt. Both a percentage and an absolute variance are set for the upper and lower limits. If one of these limits is exceeded, the system displays a warning message. If one of the upper limits is exceeded, the invoice is blocked for payment when it is posted.
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If you want to block an invoice item on the basis of a particular variance in all cases, set the value and percentage for the upper limit to zero and select Check limit.
You can define up to four limits for each tolerance:
Lower limit
Absolute
Do not check
Check limit: X
Value: 20.00
Percentage
Do not check
Check limit: X
25 %
Upper limit
Absolute
Do not check
Check limit: X
Value: 10.00
Percentage
Do not check
Check limit: X
10 %
both these values are in reference of hte estimated price.
If in figures absolute and if in %ge Percentage in context of estimated Price
Regards
Ankur -
How to forbid any further changes for PO (QTY and price )?
Hi,
How to forbid any further changes for PO (QTY and price ) after it has been done GR and LIV? Thanks.Better to post this in logistic forum.
THere will be some config option to do so but normal FI perosn would need to dig deep, a MM perosn should answer quickly.
Reg
Hein
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