ESS with ERP2005 (without a Portal)

Hi,
in the moment we are using ESS with SAP Enterprise (4.7).
Now we are planning the Upgrade to ERP2005.
We have several customers who has outsourced their HR Processes to us. We maintain their ESS on our SAP Servers.
If we change to ERP2005 the problem is, that our customers have their own Portal which is often no SAP portal. The Portal is a very strategic IT part of our customers, so we have no access to the Portal. On the other hand our customers has no HR know-how to maintain the ESS om their own.
We heard about the internal ESS. May be this could be the solution in our situation. Where can we get more information about the internal ESS. Who has tested this software already.
Best regards
Thomas

Hi,
the internal ESS is nothing else than an EP 7.0 "in disguise". It is a regular java stack, portal 7.0 and the BP for ESS and MSS just in one install on the same machine than HCM.
It is of no difference if you are using a regular external Portal Scenario or an internal ESS.
Generally speaking, SAP will push the Portal. It is now more or less mandatory for ESS/MSS and BW - SRM will follow with the next release. Web Dynpro will be essential part of the GUI-Strategy and WD without portal makes not a lot of sense.
So, customers with a different portal will need to pursuit a "Dual Portal" strategy in future, because there will be no WD integration int other portals. SAP stated very clearly in internal discussions that customers with a different portal strategy will have serious integration problems.
What I recommend is using EP for integration of SAP and use KM with federated portals for "syndication", i.e. for content integration of other portals.
When you are a provider of services, that would be a good point to start as a service offering

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