Ethernet appletalk + airport internet. can i do both?

Hi everyone. I hope I'm posting this in the right spot. here's my question. I've got an imac and an ibook and typically they run on my AirPort Extreme network in my home. Sometimes however, I've got huge files to transfer between the two machines and my AirPort connection is just too slow. What I'd like to do is to connect the two computers using an Ethernet cable. However, when I do this and then go to "Network" under my Apple System Preferences it gives me these three options:
AirPort: AirPort is connected to the network X. You are connected to the Internet via AirPort.
Built-in-Ethernet: The cable for Built-in-Ethernet is connected, but your computer does not have an IP address and cannot connect to the Internet.
Internal Modem: Internal Modem is not set up.
In the best case scenario I'd like to retain my internet connection via my AirPort network AND connect the two computers to each other via an Ethernet cable. I suspect this can't be done however.
My next choice would be to simply do without the Internet connection while I'm doing a file transfer and just connect the two computers via the Ethernet cable. I'm not sure I can do this though.
Under "Network" in Apple System Preferences I thought I could switch AppleTalk on both computers to use Ethernet but when I go to copy the files they seem to move just as slowly as if they were moving vie AirPort... and actually, I don't really know what it's using because I'm not sure how to tell what kind of connection I'm getting between the two machines.
I know I can do the target disk thing with a FireWire cable but I'd like to avoid the whole reboot thing if I can.
Any ideas?
Thanks!

First, I suggest that you setup another location for the Ethernet connection. Then you can easily switch between Ethernet and the default AirPort. See KB 106653, Using network locations in Mac OS X.
When you connect the 2 Mac via Ethernet, there is no DHCP server. Therefore you must configure the Network preference pane on each Mac to use Ethernet and a manual IP address. It doesn't really matter which IP addresses you use as long as they are both on the same subnet. Configure one to use 192.168.1.2 and the other to use 192.168.1.3. Configure them both to use a subnet value of 255.255.255.0.

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