Ethernet printer sharing

Both machines are g4 933mhz running OS 10.4.11 and connected by Ethernet hub to each other and the net. Printer is a Brother CUPS driver, and driver is installed on both machines. Printer only shows up and prints on its host machine #1 but does not show in any dialog box for the 2nd machine. I have tried re-installing drivers, appletalk on and off, sharing on and off. When the machines were first connected, there was no problem, then one day the printer disappeared from the 2nd machine. I have done all I know to do (pram zaps, disk rebuild, tossing preferences, disk warrior) and am no further ahead.
I just connected another printer Samsung to machine #2 so I could at least print from it, and see that machine #1 doesn't see it either..... must be a network problem, but I am stumped.

I am at a total loss here. Let me explain my quandry:
First, I had asked for a tcpdump on the computer with the printer attached to it. You now say that what you provided was from the "slave" (machine without printer attached via USB). So first thing is that since that computer does not have a printer to share with anyone, it should not have printer sharing enabled. If printer sharing isn't enabled on that machine, I don't understand why it is spitting out these announcement messages.
Second, you have a machine without a printer tethered to it. It's IP address is 70.67.163.133, it's router (at Shaw) is 70.67.160.1, and it's subnet mask is 255.255.252.0. That subnet mask means that the "local" subnet has 2^10 possible IP addresses to it (actually, 2^10 - 2, coz 160.0 and 163.255 are "reserved values"), so the subnet that this computer belongs to is the 70.67.160.0-70.67.163.255 subnet. We can see that the router and this computer are in this subnet, as they should be.
Third, you have a machine with the printer tethered to it. It's IP address is 70.67.165.67, it's router (at Shaw) is 70.67.164.1, and it's subnet mask is 255.255.252.0. That subnet mask means that it, too, has "2^10 - 2" possible IP addresses in it's "local" subnet, so the subnet that this computer belongs to is the 70.67.164.0-70.67.167.255 subnet. We can see that the router and this computer are in this subnet, as they should be.
Looking at the valid subnet ranges to which these two computers are assigned, it can also be seen (assuming that I did my "network mathematics" correctly) that these two computers are in different subnets! Therefore, when the computer with printer sharing enabled sends out a subnet-wide broadcast message announcing the availability of its printer to be shared, the other computer to which you wanted to share that printer ignores that broadcast message, because that other computer is in a different subnet.
Frankly, I do not understand how or why two computers, plugged into the same modem and going back to the same ISP, would be put on two different subnets. Somebody smarter than me will have to explain that to me. Are you paying extra money for two DHCP addresses?
Unless somebody out there, that has a similar configuration to yours, can explain to me, or rather, explain to you, the advantages of having a configuration like what I think you have, over having a router with NAT and DHCP and its own firewall, if I were you, I would be inclined to buy an inexpensive combo 4-port ethernet router with built-in WPA or WPA2 wireless access point (D-Link, Belkin, Netgear, etc.), that does NAT and DHCP and has a built-in firewall, too, and replace your hub with it. You'll have one external IP address assigned by Shaw to your residential LAN, your computers on your personal residential LAN will be all on the same subnet and things like printer sharing will work and the broadcast messages won't be sent out past your router onto the internet.
Anyways, this is what I think is going on. It seems really weird to me. If anybody else cares to weigh in on this, I certainly encourage them to do so.

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    Update:
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    parameters and retry.
    At line:1 char:1
    + Enable-NetAdapterBinding -Name Ethernet -ComponentID ms_server
    + ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
        + CategoryInfo          : ObjectNotFound: (MSFT_NetAdapterBindingSettingData:String) [Enable-NetAdapterBinding], C
       imJobException
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    Vincent Sprague

    Ok, fixed it, I found the netserv.inf file in c:\windows\inf and tried to use it to reinstall File and Printer Sharing. However File and Printer Sharing was not listed. I copied the netserv.inf file from another Server 2012 VM and was able to install File
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    Vincent Sprague

  • Lost Printer Sharing after HP Driver Upgrade.

    I have a 3.06 Intel Core Duo iMac and a 253 Intel Core i5 Macbook Pro. Both are running 10.6.8. They have until recently successfully shared my HP C8180 All in One Printer, the iMac being connected to the printer via USB and to a Netgear Router via Ethernet and the Macbook Pro being linked to the router wirelessly.
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    We have 2 Epson 4800 printers, each attached via USB to it's own dedicated iMac (Intel OSX 10.5.3 w/ Epson SPR4800 Universal Driver v3.66). The iMacs have printer sharing turned on. The printers are shared across our ethernet LAN to approx 50 other Mac workstations. Over half of those are PPC G5 PowerMacs the rest are Intel MacPro's. All are running OSX 10.5.3 with the latest Epson 4800 Universal Driver v3.66.
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