Ethernet woes.

I'm having ethernet issues that I can't make any sense of.
I'm on a macbook pro, running 10.6.4. I connect to my router via wireless, and plug into ethernet when I 'm transferring large files. In the past everything has worked fine.
Last night, my friend and I tried to connect my laptop to his laptop with an ethernet because the router was too far away. Nothing worked. When we assigned manual IP addresses, the ethernet connection said that it was connected. Network utility confirmed we were connected. But using the same settings, he could see my laptop in finder but couldn't connect, and I couldn't see or connect to his laptop.
Wifi, in the meantime, worked fine. Tried to fix the ethernet for several hours, and eventually gave up.
He's still here the next day, we plug into my router with an ethernet each and make new ethernet connections. Scrap the old ones that failed last night. Default settings, he can connect. IPv4 configured DHCP, he is assigned an IP address, he's on the internet. Default settings for me, I have a 'self assigned IP' and can't connect to anything. He can see my laptop in finder, but can't connect. I can't see him. Same as last night. If I manually assign an IP, if i use the right settings, I can get my ethernet saying that it's connected, but it's still the same. No internet. He can see me but can't connect. I can't see him. Wifi works fine. (Same as last night).
Googling suggests that others have had (lots of) trouble with ethernet and self assigning IPs. Some of them could temporarily fix the problem if they restarted. Doesn't work for me. Tried resetting router, didn't do anything. I don't have VMWare. Renew DHCP lease does nothing. Firewall is turned off. Swapping cables does nothing. File sharing is enabled. A few days ago, everything worked perfectly.
One thing I notice, I don't know if this is a clue or not: In the settings of the new default ethernet connection, IPv4 is configured with DHCP - on my computer I get an IP address and subnet mask, on his computer he gets an IP, subnet, router address and DNS server (which is the same as the router address).
If anyone can suggest anything at all, I'll be eternally in your debt...

Flynn Hogan wrote:
I'm having ethernet issues that I can't make any sense of.
I'm on a macbook pro, running 10.6.4. I connect to my router via wireless, and plug into ethernet when I 'm transferring large files. In the past everything has worked fine.
Last night, my friend and I tried to connect my laptop to his laptop with an ethernet because the router was too far away.
How far away were you? You do know that the max range for wired Ethernet without a repeater is 100 meters, don't you? If you're beyond wireless range (50-150 meters, depending on system and local environment) you may well be beyond wired range.
Nothing worked. When we assigned manual IP addresses, the ethernet connection said that it was connected. Network utility confirmed we were connected. But using the same settings, he could see my laptop in finder but couldn't connect, and I couldn't see or connect to his laptop.
What settings were you using?
Wifi, in the meantime, worked fine. Tried to fix the ethernet for several hours, and eventually gave up.
He's still here the next day, we plug into my router with an ethernet each and make new ethernet connections. Scrap the old ones that failed last night. Default settings, he can connect. IPv4 configured DHCP, he is assigned an IP address, he's on the internet. Default settings for me, I have a 'self assigned IP' and can't connect to anything.
If you have a APIPA address (self-assigned, an IPv4 address in the 169.254.x.y range) that means that your system is set for DHCP _and can't see the DHCP server_. That's why you can't connect to anything. Typical reasons for having an APIPA address:
1 beyond wired/wireless range
2 bad cable
3 bad port on router
4 bad port on computer
5 router set to use MAC filtering, and computer NIC has MAC not on allowed list
6 router set to exclude MAC on NIC for some reason
7 DNS issue
8 other software problem
9 other hardware problem.
Need more data to see what the real problem is. What router are you using, how is it configured, who did the configuring, how far away are you from it, have you tried other cables, have you tried to connect to other devices using that cable?
He can see my laptop in finder, but can't connect. I can't see him. Same as last night. If I manually assign an IP, if i use the right settings, I can get my ethernet saying that it's connected, but it's still the same.
That's because you're not actually connected. Setting a fixed IP won't do you the least bit of good if you're not actually connected, and you're not.
No internet. He can see me but can't connect. I can't see him. Wifi works fine. (Same as last night).
Googling suggests that others have had (lots of) trouble with ethernet and self assigning IPs. Some of them could temporarily fix the problem if they restarted. Doesn't work for me. Tried resetting router, didn't do anything. I don't have VMWare. Renew DHCP lease does nothing. Firewall is turned off. Swapping cables does nothing. File sharing is enabled. A few days ago, everything worked perfectly.
Possible bad NIC on the computer. Plug the cable into a different machine and see if that one connects. If it does, you may have a problem with your Ethernet on the Mac. As the NIC on the Mac is built in, replacing it may be difficult. You could try getting an external USB NIC and plugging in the cable there.
Also possible DNS issue. What's your DNS IP?
One thing I notice, I don't know if this is a clue or not: In the settings of the new default ethernet connection, IPv4 is configured with DHCP - on my computer I get an IP address and subnet mask, on his computer he gets an IP, subnet, router address and DNS server (which is the same as the router address).
Almost certainly a DNS issue. What happens if you put the DNS in? What happens if you use 3rd-party DNS, such as 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4 (Google's DNS) or 208.67.222.222 and 208.67.220.220 (OpenDNS's DNS)?
If anyone can suggest anything at all, I'll be eternally in your debt...

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