Euphonix MC Mix and MC Control vs Mackie Control Universal Pro

Whats up.
I read the Euphonix artist series controllers working as specified with logic Pro 8, has that been fixed ?
Comparing the Euphonix MC series to the Mackie Control USB, which is a better controller and a better purchase ? And which works best with Logic Pro 8 ?
Cheers
F

Just saw this over at Gearslutz:
We are pleased to announce the release of EuControl 1.2.2
What's New
MOTU Digital Performer 6 (v6.01 or later) now directly supports EuCon, giving you added in-depth control of DP from MC Control and MC Mix. You no longer need to configure DP to use Mackie Control. Detailed setup instructions are found in the EuCon Application Setup Guide (PDF), included with this installer.
EuControl now remembers which surfaces are in the My Surfaces list. This helps in facilities where other EuControl users are on your same network, as only surfaces that belong to you are added when EuControl starts. If this applies to you, go to the Surfaces tab and change the new Automatically add: pop-up button to My Surfaces only.
The default setting is All Surfaces, which is used when you are the only person running EuControl in your home or studio. It provides a no hassle, plug and play experience, automatically adding your surface(s) so you never have to manually edit the My Surfaces list.
MC Control users can speedily scroll through Pro Tools tracks using the jog wheel. When controlling Pro Tools, go to the Soft Key tab and assign the EuCon command Left Edit > Nudge to a soft key. Toggle this soft key on. Turn to jog wheel to nudge forward and backward through all tracks.
Bug Fixes
Improvements in knob sensitivity when controlling certain Pro Tools plug-ins. If using Waves plug-ins with Pro Tools, be sure to select the HUI control surfaces support (low res) checkbox in the Waves Preferences dialog box that comes up when launching Pro Tools. You can hold the shift key during Pro Tools launch to show this dialog.
In the Insert Special pop-up button found in the the Soft Key Command Editor's Add... Key command, the \, Keypad Enter, Return, and Spacebar keys now work correctly.
General stability fixes.

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Logic insists the user educate themselves... which is a good thing.
Here ya go!
http://documentation.apple.com/en/logicpro/
"Exploring Logic Pro" is a good one to start with.
Also in the main manual... "Setting Up Your System"

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LOL! Perhaps you should take care to follow your own advice too - telling people who you don't know that "they do not know what they are talking about" is insulting.
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Well, why didn't mackie tell me to drop files or add files or anything like you were saying.
Hmm... perhaps I might actually have some helpful knowledge that the particular guys you spoke to didn't have? Wait, I'm just some guy on a forum, I couldn't possibly know anything, right..? shrugs
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cold_terminator,
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Has anyone picked up this:
http://www.euphonix.com/artist/products/mc_mix/
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Sup All,
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PROs
Mixer felt great.
Look Great.
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Counter or Measure Displays
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Chap:A+Media

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