Events vs albums?

Hi all,
I'm sure i could find the answer somewhere but I am struggling to find out what the difference is between events and albums? I get the obvious difference however will the photos just then be duplicated? I don't want to have duplicated photos. I wouldn't even bother with creating an album if events folder allowed me to drag photos around and move them in an order I like, but because it won't let me thats why I had to make an album. Can anyone shed light on this? Am i duplicating albums or is this all that can be done to personalise the photos as much as I want? Cheers, Laura.

No, albums do not duplicate photos. They simply contain a link to the actual photos in an Event. That means your photos can be in any number of albums and use no extra disk space at all.
As to why to use them: This might give you some ideas:
I use Events simply as big buckets of Photos: Spring 08, July - Nov 06 are typical Events in my Library. I use keywords and Smart Albums extensively. I title the pics broadly.
I keyword on a
Who
What
Where basis (The When is in the photos's Exif metadata). I also rate the pics on a 1 - 5 star basis.
Using this system I can find pretty much find any pic in my 50k library in a couple of seconds.
So, for example, I have a batch of pics titled 'Seattle 08' and a typical keywording might include: John, Anne, Landscape, mountain, trees, snow. With a rating included it's so very easy to find the best pics we took at Mount Rainier.
File -> New Smart Album
set it to 'All"
title contains Seattle
keyword is mountain
keyword is snow
rating is 5 stars
Or, want a chronological album of John from birth to today?
New Smart Album
Keyword is John
Set the View options to Sort By Date Ascending
Want only the best pics?
add Rating is greater than 4 stars
The best thing about this system is that it's dynamic. If I add 50 more pics of John to the Library tomorrow, as I keyword and rate them they are added to the Smart Album.
In the end, organisation is about finding the pics. The point is to make locating that pic or batch of pics findable fast. This system works for me.

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No. When you removed the photos via the finder you damage the library. Photos should always be removed from the library using iPhoto, never with the Finder.
If you have a Time Machine backup of the library from before you deleted the photos you can restore the library to the Desktop and export that album from it to import into your current library.
It's been too long to be able to try one of the file recovery applications. You sure to have overwritten those files with new files since them.
OT

Another way to look at Events and albums (smart and dumb)

Maybe this will help others, but I had an epiphany regarding iPhoto 08 and the organizational method (or lack there of) in regards to Events and albums, etc.
Here it goes: iPhoto is now iTunes for pictures. I know it has been said before, but this time it truly is.
When you import a CD with iTunes, it creates a directory of songs in your library. When you import a group of pictures in iPhoto, it similarly imports them as an event. Events = CD's, plain and simple.
Think of searching for photos the same way you would search for songs. By typing in the artist, the album the specific title - etc you can easily find a song. With events, all the pictures are linked to the title of the event, so searching is very easy and fast.
Gone are the days of complicated hierarchy systems in Winamp or iPhoto 06. If you want a photo, you type the name of the event - or a keyword tagged into the photo.
But say you want some albums of specific songs, or in this case, photos. You can create albums or smart albums to accomplish this for quick access. Or maybe a Christmas album that automatically updates with every christmas photo entered and tagged.
I am an Aperture user and all my folders are setup like this:
Vacations --> Beach --> Florida --> 2007
If I switched to iPhoto, they will be created in a simple event, for example:
Florida Beach Vacation 2007
Now every picture within that event name would be searchable by typing in florida, beach etc. Even deeper, by tagging individual photos by the person's name or any other photo-specific info, these pics would even be more searchable.
Anyway, I hope this helps some people grasp the new concepts of organization in iPhoto 08. Surely it can be done several different ways, but I think this may be the best way to do it.

Events = CD's, plain and simple.
Great analogy! May I then add,
Albums = playlists
I see people here asking why a photo can't be in an album and in No event; perhaps the iTunes analogy would be helpful to them. If you don't have the song in your library (because you don't have that CD) then you can't put it in a playlist. (Nevermind that you can download single songs now - it doesn't fit the analogy. Remember when you had to buy the hard copy.)
Thanks for the information.
Regards.

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Ever since the iPhoto '06 days (now on iPhoto '11), I've been using Events like Albums. Like the event "Niece" where I put all the pictures of my niece, rather than create an Album for it. I just like the visual layout of Events better, never really got into the Albums feature much.
Does anyone else do this, or is it just me? Are there any drawbacks to doing this? Is there ever a circumstance where an Album would be better?

Photos in Events can only be sorted by date while those in albums can be sorted by title, date, keyword, manually and rating.
To assemble all photos of your niece together you could create a Smart Album with the criteria Keyword contains niece. Then as you import new batches of photos into its event go thru and add the appropriate keyword to those photos containing your niece. All automatic. They will show up in the smart album for your niece.
Your method is more like file organization in the Finder rather than digital asset management like iPhoto does.
OT

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You can't. Photos on the iPad doesn't have organising features. You can't create groupings, or copy from one event/whatever to another. You have limited features in the 'camera roll' for images you've saved onto the iPad - you can delete them or share them.
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I’m not sure about that routine. I’m not even sure events are transferrable and there of lots of things that could go wrong. You may want to think about importing your masters directly into Ligtroom. From finder you need to be in Pictures (not the application) and control-click on iPhoto Library.
iPhoto will have created duplicates and hidden your originals. You need to find your masters from the iPhoto Library - Right-Click and select “Show Package Contents”
Older versions of iPhoto uses an Originals folder and in later versions; Masters. It’s not a good idea to go messing with the structure as it could corrupt the iPhoto Library. Apple has made this structure for good reason; so that you can always use the revert command to go back to an original, even if you have edited in iPhoto using cropping or red eye removal, for example.
However, if you have no further use for iPhoto, you could consider moving your originals/masters to a new folder structure (iPhoto automatically creates dated sub-folders) and then importing to Lightroom. Alternatively if you still need iPhoto, export duplicates to the desktop and bring those into Lightroom. That will keep iPhoto safe.
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This link has further information on folder locations for iPhoto:
http://osxdaily.com/2011/08/30/where-iphoto-pictures-are-located/

Iphoto, events or albums

which is better or has better advantages, events or albums?

Are you asking about iPhoto on your Mac?
which is better or has better advantages, events or albums?
Events an albums serve different purposes - you will need both, see: iPhoto and File Management
Events are the basic containers in your iPhoto library. On import, each photo will be filed in an event.
Albums will help you to retrieve your photos quickly. Set up your albums in a way, that related photos are grouped into albums for specific purposes. You can add the same photo to several albums, without needing mor space. Albums are just indexes to the photos stored in events.
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Léonie

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If photos are deleted from events will they remain in the albums I created. I copied and pasted the pics from events into albums, and now want to delete the events so we don't have duplicates...

If photos are deleted from events will they remain in the albums I created.
No.
iPhoto works on a similar Library based principle to iTunes. Every Photo is in the Library, each Album (like a playlist in iTunes) is a subset of the Library.
Events are the Library. They broadly correspond to the actual folders on the HD that contain the pics. Trash a pic from an Album, you remove it from the Album, but it's still in the Library. Trash a pic from an Event and it's gone from the Library and all the albums too.
I copied and pasted the pics from events into albums, and now want to delete the events so we don't have duplicates...
First off: don't copy and paste. Drag and drop is more reliable way to move photos around in the iPhoto Window.
Second: There are no duplicates. Albums simply reference the photos in the Library. A pic can be in 50 Albums with no duplication required, no extra disk space used. A photo in more than one Event requires a duplicate.
For the benefit of nequetech
This is not true:
Events in iPhoto are actually Albums.
This is incorrect:
They mean the same thing,
As is this:
unless you have older versions.
This
If you were to delete the duplicates, I suggest you drag every picture from one event to a folder in your desktop.
is data destructive. You only get the current version of your photo, not the Original, you lose a lot of metadata as well.
This may be your preferred way to deal with duplicates, but Duplicate Annihilator is at least non-destructive - and I'm not at all sure that the OP actually has a duplicates issue at all.
Regards
TD

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I have no fix to offer as I am affected by it too. I posted one of the original threads on this and have used the Apple report a problem system to report it too. I am amazed this issue wasn't addressed in the update. It makes iPhoto on the iPad unusable for me.
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You can try rebuild with iPhoto Library Manager
Download iPhoto Library Manager and use its rebuild function. (In early versions of Library Manager it's the File -> Rebuild command. In later versions it's under the Library menu.)
This will create an entirely new library. It will then copy (or try to) your photos and all the associated metadata and versions to this new Library, and arrange it as close as it can to what you had in the damaged Library. It does this based on information it finds in the iPhoto sharing mechanism - but that means that things not shared won't be there, so no slideshows, books or calendars, for instance - but it should get all your events, albums and keywords, faces and places back.
Because this process creates an entirely new library and leaves your old one untouched, it is non-destructive, and if you're not happy with the results you can simply return to your old one.
If that doesn't help then there is no fix, I'm afraid.

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most of the photos were not copied into the iPhoto Library folder/package, but rather referenced in an external folder.
This is the worst case scenario - a mixed library, part managed, part referenced and is a recipe for disaster.
This thread:
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=1356720&tstart=0
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Regards
TD

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kind regards
Werner

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