Exact Positioning of Spry Menu

I have a vertical spry menu that I placed in a table (left vertical column) at www.nwtampa.com , and I see where I can locate the menu at top, center, baseline, etc., but I don't see where to go to position the menu exactly where I want to place it on the page. The CSS doesn't help me much - I'm a newbiew to CS3. In GL, I placed the menu in a floating box and positioned it exactly where I wanted it, but in CS3 I can't seem to figure this out.
The menu location right now is about where I want it, but for the life of me I don't recall how I got it to stay there. It should be about 272 pixels down from top. The index page was created from scratch via an older GoLive index page. I opened up an older index file created with GoLive and then saved it as a template file. BTW, why can't I preview the template file in browser? In order for me to get the preview function to work, I have to save the template as an HTML file, then preview the HTML file. Extra steps peeve me. In any event, if you click on some of the active links on the index page, you'll see older pages from my site that I created with GoLive but haven't fully updated yet with DW. Notice the menu bar on the page travels as the page is scrolled up and down? How do I get that same effect using the Spry menu feature? In other words, how do i set that function on my template page?
Casey

Casey,
I have a vertical spry menu that I placed in a table (left vertical column) at www.nwtampa.com , and I see where I can locate the menu at top, center, baseline, etc., but I don't see where to go to position the menu exactly where I want to place it on the page. The CSS doesn't help me much - I'm a newbiew to CS3. In GL, I placed the menu in a floating box and positioned it exactly where I wanted it, but in CS3 I can't seem to figure this out.
To be able to put an element anywhere you want, give it the CSS position:absolute; style. These elements show up in the DW AP Elements (formerly Layers) panel. Select them to get a handle where you can drag them anywhere you like. Warning, while this may seem easy to author, this type of positioning doesn't always work well with different screen widths, resolutions, and resizing of pages, so be sure to test these cases.
why can't I preview the template file in browser?
Browser stopped accepting the .dwt file extension, so you have to use "Temp" files with Preview In Browser.
Notice the menu bar on the page travels as the page is scrolled up and down? How do I get that same effect using the Spry menu feature?
It sounds like you want to use the CSS position:fixed; style. Note that DW does not support this style, so you won't see this effect in Design View. Also, some older browsers do not support it either.
HTH,
Randy

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I have a Dreamweaver-created Spry Menu Bar drop down menu which works perfectly in every browser on my Mac and on my PC . . . EXCEPT Internet Explorer (who woulda thunk it?!!)
In all browsers except for IE, the 3 submenu items under "Door Systems" and "Gallery" appear exactly as they should in a vertical row, positioned just below the brown line below the navigation links and all the same width. But in IE they appear higher up and with different widths. IE is ignoring the rules for width and position.
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</ul>
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http://2113web.com/indeco/index.html
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@charset "UTF-8";
/* SpryMenuBarHorizontal.css - version 0.6 - Spry Pre-Release 1.6.1 */
/* Copyright (c) 2006. Adobe Systems Incorporated. All rights reserved. */
LAYOUT INFORMATION: describes box model, positioning, z-order
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    list-style-type: none;
    font-size: 100%;
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ul.MenuBarActive
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ul.MenuBarHorizontal li
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ul.MenuBarHorizontal ul.MenuBarSubmenuVisible
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ul.MenuBarHorizontal a.MenuBarItemHover, ul.MenuBarHorizontal a.MenuBarItemSubmenuHover, ul.MenuBarHorizontal a.MenuBarSubmenuVisible
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    color: #afa06f;
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/* Menu items that have a submenu have the class designation MenuBarItemSubmenu and are set to use a background image positioned on the far left (95%) and centered vertically (50%)
ul.MenuBarHorizontal a.MenuBarItemSubmenu
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Perry

Hi and thank you very much. It was a little confusing as to whether you meant to add the rules you suggested or to replace them, or a combination of both, but I puzzled it out. I created a new MenuBarHorizontal.css file in a blank page and then made the changes you suggested and it works! Yay! I had to do a bit of tweaking to get it to look just the way I wanted, but it now works correctly in ie 7 and 8 and still works fine in everything else.
Interestingly enough, I had to change the margin-top: 63px; rule in "ul.MenuBarHorizontal ul.MenuBarSubmenuVisible" to 40px to get it positioned properly vertically, and I had to get rid of the "border-bottom: solid 1px #EEE;" in "ul.MenuBarHorizontal ul li", which caused the submenu items to have quite a lot of vertical space between them - I'm not sure why!
I also had to get rid of all the syling rules in the "SUBMENU INDICATION: styles if there is a submenu under a given menu item" section, as well as the one you added: "ul.MenuBarHorizontal a.MenuBarItemSubmenu {
    padding: 0.5em 2em 0.5em 0.75em;"
With that done, it works great in both ie7 and ie8, so thank you for the help. Below is the new css that works, in total.
Not being as familiar with the subtleties of CSS as you and many others obviously are, I'm REALLY curious as to exactly what is different that causes this to work now, and would be happy to hear your expanation, if you feel like taking the time to explain. If not, no problem - it works and that is the most important thing! So, thank you again -
Perry
@charset "UTF-8";
/* SpryMenuBarHorizontal.css - version 0.6 - Spry Pre-Release 1.6.1 */
/* Copyright (c) 2006. Adobe Systems Incorporated. All rights reserved. */
LAYOUT INFORMATION: describes box model, positioning, z-order
/* The outermost container of the Menu Bar, an auto width box with no margin or padding */
ul.MenuBarHorizontal
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    font-size: 100%;
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    padding: 0;
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ul.MenuBarHorizontal ul.MenuBarSubmenuVisible ul.MenuBarSubmenuVisible
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ul.MenuBarHorizontal iframe
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/* HACK FOR IE: to stabilize appearance of menu items; the slash in float is to keep IE 5.0 from parsing */
@media screen, projection
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Spry menu Bar I.E. positioning issues?

Hi,
I, like many folks I've seen on various forums have the same problem with my spry menu appearing at the top of I.E browsers instead of under the menu bar. I've tried all sorts of fixes that I've found and have updated to the latest version of Spry. I am using CS3. Could anyone please, please help? I'm not sure where else to go as I've spent the last week on the web trying to resolve the issue. Everything works great on Safari and Firefox. My URL is http://www.visiongreeninvestments.org
Thanks in advance to anyone who can point me in the right direction.
My CSS is:
@charset "UTF-8";
/* SpryMenuBarHorizontal.css - Revision: Spry Preview Release 1.4 */
/* Copyright (c) 2006. Adobe Systems Incorporated. All rights reserved. */
LAYOUT INFORMATION: describes box model, positioning, z-order
/* The outermost container of the Menu Bar, an auto width box with no margin or padding */
ul.MenuBarHorizontal
    margin: 0;
    padding: 0;
    list-style-type: none;
    font-size: 100%;
    cursor: default;
    width: auto;
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    border-right-width: 0px;
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BROWSER HACKS: the hacks below should not be changed unless you are an expert
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    position: absolute;
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/* HACK FOR IE: to stabilize appearance of menu items; the slash in float is to keep IE 5.0 from parsing */
@media screen, projection
    ul.MenuBarHorizontal li.MenuBarItemIE
        display: inline;
        f\loat: left;
        background: #FFF;
    /*insert this bracket/*

I see that the online version has already been upgraded to Spry 1.61 and that it now works.
Gramps
PS Before you change anything, have a look here http://www.dwcourse.com/dreamweaver/ten-commandments-spry-menubars.php#one. This will ensure that you don't make a mess of it this time around.

Spry Menu Bar disappears absolute position

Hello all this is my first time posting on this site so bear with me. I have a semi-transperant spry menu bar that i inserted into the header div, over an image. I moved the menu bar -38px, when the position is set to relative the menu bar is visible, however the old position of the menu bar has a blank white space there. I think this is due to the relative position property. When i change it to absolute the whole menu bar disappears? http://www.brightlikethesun.com/index2.html (the position is back to relative to show the menu bar and also background for header is blue to show the space)
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/* SpryMenuBarHorizontal.css - version 0.6 - Spry Pre-Release 1.6.1 */
/* Copyright (c) 2006. Adobe Systems Incorporated. All rights reserved. */
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font-size: 70%;
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width: 50em;
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background: #45484d; /* Old browsers */
background: -moz-linear-gradient(top, #45484d 0%, #000000 50%); /* FF3.6+ */
background: -webkit-gradient(linear, left top, left bottom, color-stop(0%,#45484d), color-stop(100%,#000000)); /* Chrome,Safari4+ */
background: -webkit-linear-gradient(top, #45484d 0%,#000000 100%); /* Chrome10+,Safari5.1+ */
background: -o-linear-gradient(top, #45484d 0%,#000000 50%); /* Opera 11.10+ */
background: -ms-linear-gradient(top, #45484d 0%,#000000 50%); /* IE10+ */
background: linear-gradient(to bottom, #45484d 0%,#000000 50%); /* W3C */
filter: progid:DXImageTransform.Microsoft.gradient( startColorstr='#45484d', endColorstr='#000000',GradientType=0 ); /* IE6-9 */
/* Menu items that have mouse over or focus have a blue background and white text */
ul.MenuBarHorizontal a:hover, ul.MenuBarHorizontal a:focus
background-color: #33C;
color: #FFF;
background: #7d7e7d; /* Old browsers */
background: -moz-linear-gradient(top, #7d7e7d 0%, #0e0e0e 50%); /* FF3.6+ */
background: -webkit-gradient(linear, left top, left bottom, color-stop(0%,#7d7e7d), color-stop(100%,#0e0e0e)); /* Chrome,Safari4+ */
background: -webkit-linear-gradient(top, #7d7e7d 0%,#0e0e0e 50%); /* Chrome10+,Safari5.1+ */
background: -o-linear-gradient(top, #7d7e7d 0%,#0e0e0e 50%); /* Opera 11.10+ */
background: -ms-linear-gradient(top, #7d7e7d 0%,#0e0e0e 50%); /* IE10+ */
background: linear-gradient(to bottom, #7d7e7d 0%,#0e0e0e 50%); /* W3C */
filter: progid:DXImageTransform.Microsoft.gradient( startColorstr='#7d7e7d', endColorstr='#0e0e0e',GradientType=0 ); /* IE6-9 */
BROWSER HACKS: the hacks below should not be changed unless you are an expert
/* HACK FOR IE: to make sure the sub menus show above form controls, we underlay each submenu with an iframe */
ul.MenuBarHorizontal iframe
position: absolute;
z-index: 1010;
filter:alpha(opacity:0.1);
/* HACK FOR IE: to stabilize appearance of menu items; the slash in float is to keep IE 5.0 from parsing */
@media screen, projection
ul.MenuBarHorizontal li.MenuBarItemIE
display: inline;
f\loat: left;
background: #FFF;
html
<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd">
<html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml">
<head>
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8" />
<title>Bright Like The Sun -- San Antonio, TX</title>
<style type="text/css">

</style>
<link href="SpryAssets/SpryMenuBarHorizontal.css" rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" />

<script src="SpryAssets/SpryMenuBar.js" type="text/javascript"></script>
</head>
<body>
<div class="container">
<div class="header"><a href="#"><img src="BLTS1.jpg" alt="BLTS" name="BLTS" width="100%" height="100%" id="BLTS" style="display: block;" /></a>
   <ul id="MenuBar1" class="MenuBarHorizontal">
     <li><a class="MenuBarItemSubmenu" href="#"><center>Home</center></a></li>
     <li><a href="#"><center>Shows</center></a>
<ul>
         <li><a href="#"><u>Upcoming shows</u><br />
<br />
May 4th 2013 @<img src="502.jpg" width="5%" height="5%"><br />
Bright Like The Sun along with Little Science<br />
8pm 21+
</a></li>
               </ul>
     </li>
     <li><a class="MenuBarItemSubmenu" href="#"><center>Merch</center></a>
       <ul>
         <li><a class="MenuBarItemSubmenu" href="#"><u>Album</u><br /><img src="coda fin cover.jpg" width="15%" height="15%"><font size="4">Coda Fin</font><br />
Purchase Here or Itunes</a>
                    </li>
         <li><a href="#">Shirts--Coming Soon!</a></li>
         <li><a href="#">Various--Coming Soon!</a></li>
       </ul>
     </li>
     <li><a href="#"><center>Bio</center></a></li>
<li><a href="#"><center>Contact</center></a></li>
</ul></div>
<div class="sidebar1">
<p></p>
    <br />
    <p> </p>
    <p> </p>
    <p> </p>
    <p> </p>
    <p> </p>
    <p> </p>
    <p> </p>
    <p> </p>
    <p> </p>
    <p> </p>
    <p> </p>
    <p> </p>
    <p> </p>
    <p> </p>
    <p> </p>
    <p> </p>
    <p> </p>
    <p> </p>
    <p> </p>
    <p> </p>
</div>
<div class="content"><p align="right"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/brightlikethesun"><img src="FB.jpg" width="30" height="31" alt="Facebook" /></a><img src="twitter-icon.png" width="30" height="31" /></p>
    <p align="left"><img src="weare.jpg" width="185" height="72" /></p><p align="right"><iframe style="border:none" src="http://files.podsnack.com/iframe/embed.html?hash=adznldvg&t=1366488970" width="340" height="54" allowfullscreen="true" mozallowfullscreen="true" webkitallowfullscreen="true" ></iframe></p>
    <p><img src="BLTS2.jpg" alt="BLTS" width="411" height="297" align="left" /><img src="BLTS font.jpg" width="340" /> is a Post-Rock band from San Antonio. They were born in early 2012 from the collective desire to make beautiful, thought provoking, and at times, chaotic music. Much like fellow Texan bands like Explosions in the Sky and This Will Destroy You, they are entirely instrumental, and known for creating progressively intricate waves of ambiance that grow with intensity and an unabashed wash of emotion. Attuned to their affinity for dynamics, seeing them live takes the listener from deafening walls of orchestrated sound, to melodies so subtle that one finds themselves acutely aware of their own breathing. <br />
      Bright Like The Sun’s debut album, Coda Fin, was engineered/mixed by Alex Bhore (of This Will Destroy You), and mastered by TW Walsh (of Pedro The Lion). The record, which was self released, was made available on April 12, 2013.<br /><br /><img src="BLTS3.jpg" width="330" height="245" align="right" /></p>
<br />
<br />
    <h4>Bright Like The Sun Consists of:</h4>
    <p>Rob Mochen - Guitar <br />
    Chris Etheredge - Guitar/Keys <br />
    Christian Miranda - Bass <br />
    Steven Barrera - Drums    </p>
    <p><br />
    </p>
    <h4><u>Coda Fin</u> Release Date April 12th 2013    </h4>
    <h4><img src="coda fin cover.jpg" width="250" height="238" align="left" /><img src="venues.jpg" width="171" height="65" align="right" /><br />
    <br />
    <br />
    <br />
       <a href="http://502bar.com/"><img src="502.jpg" width="150" height="112" align="right" /></a><a href="http://www.gypsyloungeaustin.com"><img src="gypsylounge.jpg" / width="150" height="112" align="right"></a></h4>
    <p align="right"> </p>
</div>
<div class="footer">
    <p><font face="verdana" font size="2" font color="#FFFFFF">©2013 Bright Like The Sun All Rights Reserved</font></p>
    </div>
</div>
<script type="text/javascript">
var MenuBar1 = new Spry.Widget.MenuBar("MenuBar1", {imgDown:"SpryAssets/SpryMenuBarDownHover.gif", imgRight:"SpryAssets/SpryMenuBarRightHover.gif"});
</script>
</body>
</html>

What I see:
You need a width on the ul.MenuBarVertical style. Make it the same width as the ul.MenuBarVertical li selector.
Remove the float: none; from this style:
ul.MenuBarVertical ul li
     width: 12em;
     float: none;
No such measurement as a half a pixel:
ul.MenuBarVertical ul
     border: .5px solid #CCC;
If you want a border, 1px is minimum...you repeat this incorrect half-pixel in several places.
Running your page through the W3C Validator returned this: http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.healthydirections.ca%2F&charset=%28dete ct+automatically%29&doctype=Inline&group=0
Your initial errors are not declaring a DOCTYPE, which among other things, does not provide the browser with any information regarding how you want the code interpreted for your viewer. Some browsers guess well, some do not (IE).
This
     <html>
is insufficient.
Apply this in its place, and run through the validator again.
<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd">
<html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml">
Beth

Spry Menu Bar 2.0 and positioning of arrows

Hello again,
I'm now trying to incorporate Spry Menu Bar 2.0 into a client site, using CS6. Two things are occurring: in Live View, for long lines of menu text, the text wraps to a second line (as I would prefer) and the arrows to submenus line up in a readable fashion. But when I view it in IE or Firefox, the text spills outside (off to the right) of the vertical menu container and the submenu arrows are hidden underneath the text. As far as width, I've tried auto and inherit.
So, out of frustration I finally decided I would just shorten my menu text to solve the spilling over problem, and a set pixel width that accommodated my longest line of text. But still, even if the text just fills the container, the arrow is hidden underneath the text. I'm pulling my hair out trying to figure out how to adjust the positioning of the arrow so that it's off to the far right, as it should be. I assume it is this set of rules that controls the arrow:
.MenuBarVertical .MenuItemWithSubMenu .MenuItemLabel{
    background-image:url("images/ArrowMenuRight.gif");
    background-position:right center;
    background-repeat:no-repeat;
.MenuBar .SubMenu .MenuItemWithSubMenu .MenuItemLabel{
    background-image:url("images/ArrowMenuRight.gif");
    background-position:right center;
    background-repeat:no-repeat;
.MenuBar .SubMenu .MenuItemHover.MenuItemWithSubMenu .MenuItemLabel{
    background-image:url("images/ArrowMenuRight.gif");
    background-position:right center;
    background-repeat:no-repeat;
...but I don't know how to adjust these to bump the arrow over. Any ideas out there?
Ideally, I'd like to get back to wrapping my menu text as well, and I don't understand why it appears this way in Live View but not in a browser. But I'll settle for the arrow in the correct position as second prize. Thanks for your help,
Gail

OK, here's what I've done. By adjusting the right padding on #MenuBarVertical .MenuItem .MenuItemLabel, AND #MenuBarVertical .SubMenu .MenuItem .MenuItemLabel, I was able to position the right arrows to where I wanted them. I also removed all links from top-level menu items so that the fly-out submenus would appear on a touch screen. You can see the results on my client site: www.gcssepm.org. I must say that this solution was not intuitive; it took a lot of experimentation to figure out which rule to adjust, and menu rules vs. submenu rules seem to operate in the opposite manner as far as padding and arrows go.
I do have a similar issue with Scott, in that it takes two or more "taps" to get the submenus to fly out, but at least the arrow is there so the user knows there is a submenu to be had. The only real issue I still have is that for sub-submenus (i.e., third-level), no amount of tapping will get those to display long enough to select them (only an issue on the iPad). I don't know a way around this for the iPad, other than to also eliminate all links from second-level menus that have a third level, and that's more reprogramming than I want to do for today.
Final questions regarding the Spry 2.0 widget. Obviously, after I customized the widget, saved it, and imported into my site template, it took some additional tweaking before everything was working properly. Is there a way to export the settings back out to the widget, so that all the tweaking is there? Also, is there a way to save my menu text back to the widget, because it is obviously NOT Home, Entertainment, Music, etc.
Thanks for all your help, and I hope someone else benefits from my experiences as well.
Gail

Vertical Spry Menu-IE alters positioning. How do I fix this? Works in all other browsers correctly.

I've recently uploaded a new website and am having a glitch with internet explorer with the vertical spry menu. It appears perfectly in all other browsers. I had added css rules to move up some of the longer submenus so they would all appear on the screen without needing to scroll down on the main page to view them. In internet explorer, it positions the top menu item, but the rest of the list does not follow in suit. Any ideas? This is super frustrating! Thanks!
link is here:
http://www.academypublishing.com

Hi,
I see now and it's really a little crazy, because the menus are there, just not where they should be.
I still need to investigate the matter thoroughly a little more closely, because I never saw it till now. Too bad that Gramps has not seen the thread, I'm convinced he will do the trick immediately! What if you would write a letter to him?By the way, did you make a try it with the original version of "SpryMenuBarVertical.css".
Hans-G.

Positioning of spry sub menu in IE8

Hi - can anyone help with an IE8 issue concerning Spry? I have created a menu here:
http://www.clinicafiore.co.uk/jan2012/indexJan2012_1.html
In all the browsers I have tested (Chrome,FF,Safari,Opera) on Mac and PC platforms it works fine. In IE8 it doesn't (hooray).
The critical attribute is:
ul.MenuBarHorizontal ul.MenuBarSubmenuVisible
left: 189px;
top: 0;
I.e. I have pushed the sub-menu out 189px when visible and set the top value to 0 thinking this would align the sub-menu with the top of the main menu item.
Is there a better way to do this to cover all browsers or do I need some conditional code for IE?
Really.really grateful for any help
For good measure here's all the html & the css
HTML
<div id="leftNav">
    <ul id="MenuBar1" class="MenuBarHorizontal">
      <li><a href="#" title="ageing body" class="MenuBarItemSubmenu">AGEING BODY</a>
        <ul>
          <li><a href="#">Ageing Décolleté</a></li>
          <li><a href="#">Ageing Hands</a></li>
          <li><a href="#">Ageing Neck</a></li>
        </ul>
      </li>
      <li><a href="#" class="MenuBarItemSubmenu">ageing face</a>
        <ul>
          <li><a href="#">Ageing Lips</a></li>
          <li><a href="#">Double Chin</a></li>
          <li><a href="#">Downturned Mouth</a></li>
        </ul>
      </li>
      <li><a class="MenuBarItemSubmenu" href="#">Item 3</a>
        <ul>
          <li><a class="MenuBarItemSubmenu" href="#">Item 3.1</a>
            <ul>
              <li><a href="#">Item 3.1.1</a></li>
              <li><a href="#">Item 3.1.2</a></li>
            </ul>
          </li>
          <li><a href="#">Item 3.2</a></li>
          <li><a href="#">Item 3.3</a></li>
        </ul>
      </li>
      <li><a href="#">Item 4</a></li>
    </ul>
</div>
CSS
ul.MenuBarHorizontal
          margin: 0;
          padding: 0;
          list-style-type: none;
          font-size: 0.9em;
          cursor: default;
          width: auto;
/* Set the active Menu Bar with this class, currently setting z-index to accomodate IE rendering bug: http://therealcrisp.xs4all.nl/meuk/IE-zindexbug.html */
ul.MenuBarActive
          z-index: 1000;
/* Menu item containers, position children relative to this container and are a fixed width */
ul.MenuBarHorizontal li
          margin: 0;
          padding: 0;
          list-style-type: none;
          font-size: 0.9em;
          position: relative;
          text-align: left;
          cursor: pointer;
          width: 189px;
          float: left;
          font-weight: bold;
          text-transform: uppercase;
/* Submenus should appear below their parent (top: 0) with a higher z-index, but they are initially off the left side of the screen (-1000em) */
ul.MenuBarHorizontal ul
          margin: 0;
          padding: 0;
          list-style-type: none;
          font-size: 100%;
          z-index: 1020;
          cursor: default;
          width: 189px;
          position: absolute;
          left: -1000em;
/* Submenu that is showing with class designation MenuBarSubmenuVisible, we set left to auto so it comes onto the screen below its parent menu item */
ul.MenuBarHorizontal ul.MenuBarSubmenuVisible
          left: 189px;
          top: 0;
/* Menu item containers are same fixed width as parent */
ul.MenuBarHorizontal ul li
          width: 189px;
          font-weight: normal;
          text-transform: none;
/* Submenus should appear slightly overlapping to the right (95%) and up (-5%) */
ul.MenuBarHorizontal ul ul
          position: absolute;
          margin: -5% 0 0 95%;
/* Submenu that is showing with class designation MenuBarSubmenuVisible, we set left to 0 so it comes onto the screen */
ul.MenuBarHorizontal ul.MenuBarSubmenuVisible ul.MenuBarSubmenuVisible
          left: auto;
          top: 0;
DESIGN INFORMATION: describes color scheme, borders, fonts
/* Submenu containers have borders on all sides */
ul.MenuBarHorizontal ul
          border: 1px solid #CCC;
          font-weight: normal;
          text-transform: none;
/* Menu items are a light gray block with padding and no text decoration */
ul.MenuBarHorizontal a
          display: block;
          cursor: pointer;
          background-color: #aee56b;
          padding: 0.5em 0.75em;
          color: #333;
          text-decoration: none;
          border-bottom-width: thin;
          border-bottom-style: dotted;
          border-bottom-color: #FFF;
/* Menu items that have mouse over or focus have a blue background and white text */
ul.MenuBarHorizontal a:hover, ul.MenuBarHorizontal a:focus
          background-color: #999999;
          color: #FFF;
/* Menu items that are open with submenus are set to MenuBarItemHover with a blue background and white text */
ul.MenuBarHorizontal a.MenuBarItemHover, ul.MenuBarHorizontal a.MenuBarItemSubmenuHover, ul.MenuBarHorizontal a.MenuBarSubmenuVisible
          background-color: #999999;
          color: #FFF;
SUBMENU INDICATION: styles if there is a submenu under a given menu item
/* Menu items that have a submenu have the class designation MenuBarItemSubmenu and are set to use a background image positioned on the far left (95%) and centered vertically (50%) */
ul.MenuBarHorizontal a.MenuBarItemSubmenu
          background-image: url(SpryMenuBarRight.gif);
          background-repeat: no-repeat;
          background-position: 95% 50%;
/* Menu items that have a submenu have the class designation MenuBarItemSubmenu and are set to use a background image positioned on the far left (95%) and centered vertically (50%) */
ul.MenuBarHorizontal ul a.MenuBarItemSubmenu
          background-image: url(SpryMenuBarRight.gif);
          background-repeat: no-repeat;
          background-position: 95% 50%;
/* Menu items that are open with submenus have the class designation MenuBarItemSubmenuHover and are set to use a "hover" background image positioned on the far left (95%) and centered vertically (50%) */
ul.MenuBarHorizontal a.MenuBarItemSubmenuHover
          background-image: url(SpryMenuBarRight.gif);
          background-repeat: no-repeat;
          background-position: 95% 50%;
/* Menu items that are open with submenus have the class designation MenuBarItemSubmenuHover and are set to use a "hover" background image positioned on the far left (95%) and centered vertically (50%) */
ul.MenuBarHorizontal ul a.MenuBarItemSubmenuHover
          background-image: url(SpryMenuBarRightHover.gif);
          background-repeat: no-repeat;
          background-position: 95% 50%;
BROWSER HACKS: the hacks below should not be changed unless you are an expert
/* HACK FOR IE: to make sure the sub menus show above form controls, we underlay each submenu with an iframe */
ul.MenuBarHorizontal iframe
          position: absolute;
          z-index: 1010;
          filter:alpha(opacity:0.1);
/* HACK FOR IE: to stabilize appearance of menu items; the slash in float is to keep IE 5.0 from parsing */
@media screen, projection
          ul.MenuBarHorizontal li.MenuBarItemIE
                    display: inline;
                    f\loat: left;
                    background: #FFF;

I may be misinterpreting what it is that you want, partly because I thought we were talking horizontal menu and you point out a vertical menu.
I think that you used the vertical menu as an illustration to shopw how you want the submenu alligned. If that is correct, then please copy an paste the following into a new document and see the result in an IE8 browser.
<!DOCTYPE HTML>
<html>
<head>
<meta charset="utf-8">
<title>Untitled Document</title>
<link href="http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/spry/widgets/menubar/SpryMenuBarHorizontal.css" rel="stylesheet">
<style>
ul.MenuBarHorizontal ul {margin-left: 8em; margin-top: -35px;}
</style>
</head>
<body>
<ul id="MenuBar1" class="MenuBarHorizontal">
<li><a class="MenuBarItemSubmenu" href="#">Item 1</a>
    <ul>
      <li><a href="#">Item 1.1</a></li>
      <li><a href="#">Item 1.2</a></li>
      <li><a href="#">Item 1.3</a></li>
    </ul>
</li>
<li><a href="#">Item 2</a></li>
<li><a class="MenuBarItemSubmenu" href="#">Item 3</a>
    <ul>
      <li><a class="MenuBarItemSubmenu" href="#">Item 3.1</a>
        <ul>
          <li><a href="#">Item 3.1.1</a></li>
          <li><a href="#">Item 3.1.2</a></li>
        </ul>
      </li>
      <li><a href="#">Item 3.2</a></li>
      <li><a href="#">Item 3.3</a></li>
    </ul>
</li>
<li><a href="#">Item 4</a></li>
</ul>
<script src="http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/spry/includes_minified/SpryMenuBar.js"></script>
<script>
var MenuBar1 = new Spry.Widget.MenuBar("MenuBar1", {imgDown:"SpryAssets/SpryMenuBarDownHover.gif", imgRight:"SpryAssets/SpryMenuBarRightHover.gif"});
</script>
</body>
</html>
If the above is not what you want, then please explain.
Gramps

Spry menu position in IE.

Hey guys,
I need a little help with positioning spry menu in internet Explorer. It looks just fine in Firefox and Safari but it looks all over the place in IE 7.
This is my css for spry menu. I'm all new to this and I dont really know how to fix it.
ul.MenuBarHorizontal
    margin: 0;
    padding: 0;
    list-style-type: none;
    font-size: 93%;
    cursor: default;
    width: auto;
    font: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;
/* Set the active Menu Bar with this class, currently setting z-index to accomodate IE rendering bug: http://therealcrisp.xs4all.nl/meuk/IE-zindexbug.html */
ul.MenuBarActive
    z-index: 1000;
/* Menu item containers, position children relative to this container and are a fixed width */
ul.MenuBarHorizontal li
    margin: 0;
    padding: 0;
    list-style-type: none;
    font-size: 95%;
    position: relative;
    text-align: left;
    cursor: pointer;
    width: 141px;
    float: left;
    font: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;
    height: 25;
    font-weight: bold;
/* Submenus should appear below their parent (top: 0) with a higher z-index, but they are initially off the left side of the screen (-1000em) */
ul.MenuBarHorizontal ul
    margin: 0;
    padding: 0;
    list-style-type: none;
    font-size: 100%;
    z-index: 1020;
    width: 1px;
    position: absolute;
    left: -1000em;
    font: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;
/* Submenu that is showing with class designation MenuBarSubmenuVisible, we set left to auto so it comes onto the screen below its parent menu item */
ul.MenuBarHorizontal ul.MenuBarSubmenuVisible
    left: auto;
/* Menu item containers are same fixed width as parent */
ul.MenuBarHorizontal ul li
    width: 8.2em;
/* Submenus should appear slightly overlapping to the right (95%) and up (-5%) */
ul.MenuBarHorizontal ul ul
    position: absolute;
    margin: -5% 0 0 95%;
    height: 1px;
/* Submenu that is showing with class designation MenuBarSubmenuVisible, we set left to 0 so it comes onto the screen */
ul.MenuBarHorizontal ul.MenuBarSubmenuVisible ul.MenuBarSubmenuVisible
    left: auto;
    top: 0;
DESIGN INFORMATION: describes color scheme, borders, fonts
/* Submenu containers have borders on all sides */
ul.MenuBarHorizontal ul
    border: #FFFFFFF;
/* Menu items are a light gray block with padding and no text decoration */
ul.MenuBarHorizontal a
    display: block;
    cursor: pointer;
    background-color: #419639;
    padding: 0.5em 0.75em;
    color: #FFFFFF;
    text-decoration: none;
/* Menu items that have mouse over or focus have a blue background and white text */
ul.MenuBarHorizontal a:hover, ul.MenuBarHorizontal a:focus
    background-color: #7BC144;
    color: #FFF;
/* Menu items that are open with submenus are set to MenuBarItemHover with a blue background and white text */
ul.MenuBarHorizontal a.MenuBarItemHover, ul.MenuBarHorizontal a.MenuBarItemSubmenuHover, ul.MenuBarHorizontal a.MenuBarSubmenuVisible
    background-color: #7BC144;
    color: #FFF;
SUBMENU INDICATION: styles if there is a submenu under a given menu item
/* Menu items that have a submenu have the class designation MenuBarItemSubmenu and are set to use a background image positioned on the far left (95%) and centered vertically (50%) */
ul.MenuBarHorizontal a.MenuBarItemSubmenu
    background-image: url(SpryMenuBarDown.gif);
    background-repeat: no-repeat;
    background-position: 95% 50%;
/* Menu items that have a submenu have the class designation MenuBarItemSubmenu and are set to use a background image positioned on the far left (95%) and centered vertically (50%) */
ul.MenuBarHorizontal ul a.MenuBarItemSubmenu
    background-image: url(SpryMenuBarRight.gif);
    background-repeat: no-repeat;
    background-position: 95% 50%;
/* Menu items that are open with submenus have the class designation MenuBarItemSubmenuHover and are set to use a "hover" background image positioned on the far left (95%) and centered vertically (50%) */
ul.MenuBarHorizontal a.MenuBarItemSubmenuHover
    background-image: url(SpryMenuBarDownHover.gif);
    background-repeat: no-repeat;
    background-position: 95% 50%;
/* Menu items that are open with submenus have the class designation MenuBarItemSubmenuHover and are set to use a "hover" background image positioned on the far left (95%) and centered vertically (50%) */
ul.MenuBarHorizontal ul a.MenuBarItemSubmenuHover
    background-image: url(SpryMenuBarRightHover.gif);
    background-repeat: no-repeat;
    background-position: 95% 50%;
BROWSER HACKS: the hacks below should not be changed unless you are an expert
/* HACK FOR IE: to make sure the sub menus show above form controls, we underlay each submenu with an iframe */
ul.MenuBarHorizontal iframe
    position: absolute;
    z-index: 1010;
/* HACK FOR IE: to stabilize appearance of menu items; the slash in float is to keep IE 5.0 from parsing */
@media screen, projection
    ul.MenuBarHorizontal li.MenuBarItemIE
        display: inline;
        f\loat: left;
        background: #FFF;
Thank you.

Hi,
Have a look at the following markup
<td width="140" height="24" bgcolor="419639"><ul class="MenuBarHorizontal style6" id="MenuBar11">
      <li class="style57">
        <div align="center"><a href="support.html" class="MenuBarItemSubmenu">SUPPORT</a></div>
          <ul>
            <li><a href="support.html">Donate</a></li>
            <li><a href="volunteer.html" class="MenuBarItemSubmenu">Volunteer</a>
              <ul>
                <li><a href="#">Becoming a volunteer</a></li>
                <li><a href="#">Volunteer Projects</a></li>
              </ul>
              </li>
            <li><a href="/onlinestore.html">Store</a></li>
          </ul>
       </li>
    </ul>
    </td>
In the first line the menu item including its submenus are restricted in width, hence the result.
In the second last line there is a closing </ul> without and opening <ul>.
There are quite a few lines similar to the latter of the above which should be looked at.
Normally, if using tables (brrrr....!) there would be one table, one table row and one table cell that accommodates one menubar, not as per this script which has a number of table cells with as menu menubars.
I think you should reassess your strategy.
I hope this helps.
Ben

Spry Menu not positioned correctly in IE

I've search for a answer to this and it seems to be common but there has been no solution to be found. I have a spry horizontal menu that in FireFox, Safari and Opera opens and functions fine. In IE the menu buttons are in the correct place but the dropdowns are at the top of the screen. The virtical position is correct but the horizontal position is obviously off. I tried to keep the spry code as original as possible and have only altered the css to change font sizes and bkg colors.
Another issue I can't seem to solve is the font sizes for the sub menus. I would like the main buttons to be in bold and every sub menu that opens below to be in a normal font. No matter what I change in the CSS I can't get the fonts to go to normal w/o it altering the fonts in the button above. I hope this make sence. Here is the CSS code I'm working with.
@charset "UTF-8";
/* SpryMenuBarHorizontal.css - version 0.6 - Spry Pre-Release 1.6.1 */
/* Copyright (c) 2006. Adobe Systems Incorporated. All rights reserved. */
LAYOUT INFORMATION: describes box model, positioning, z-order
/* The outermost container of the Menu Bar, an auto width box with no margin or padding */
ul.MenuBarHorizontal
    margin: 0;
    padding: 0;
    list-style-type: none;
    font-size: 17px;
    cursor: default;
    width: 800px;
/* Set the active Menu Bar with this class, currently setting z-index to accomodate IE rendering bug: http://therealcrisp.xs4all.nl/meuk/IE-zindexbug.html */
ul.MenuBarActive
    z-index: 1000;
/* Menu item containers, position children relative to this container and are a fixed width this controls the main menu bar */
ul.MenuBarHorizontal li
    margin: 0;
    padding: 0;
    list-style-type: none;
    font-size: 17px;
    position: relative;
    text-align: center;
    cursor: pointer;
    width: 160px;
    float: left;
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ul.MenuBarHorizontal ul
    margin: -5% 0 0 20%;
    padding: 0;
    list-style-type: none;
    font-size: 10px;
    z-index: 1020;
    cursor: default;
    width: 8.2em;
    position: absolute;
    left: -1000em;
    font-weight: normal;
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ul.MenuBarHorizontal ul.MenuBarSubmenuVisible
    left: auto;
/* Menu item containers are same fixed width as parent */
ul.MenuBarHorizontal ul li
    width: 8.2em;
/* Submenus should appear slightly overlapping to the right (95%) and up (-5%) */
ul.MenuBarHorizontal ul ul
    position: absolute;
    margin: -5% 0 0 95%;
/* Submenu that is showing with class designation MenuBarSubmenuVisible, we set left to 0 so it comes onto the screen */
ul.MenuBarHorizontal ul.MenuBarSubmenuVisible ul.MenuBarSubmenuVisible
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    top: 0;
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ul.MenuBarHorizontal ul
    border: 1px solid #CCC;
/* Menu items are a light gray block with padding and no text decoration */
ul.MenuBarHorizontal a
    display: block;
    cursor: pointer;
    background-color: #000000;
    color: #FFFFFF;
    text-decoration: none;
    width: 162px;
    font-style: oblique;
    font-size: 16px;
    font-weight: bold;
    font-family: Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;
    text-align: center;
    padding-top: 10px;
    padding-bottom: 10px;
/* Menu items that have mouse over or focus have a blue background and white text */
ul.MenuBarHorizontal a:hover, ul.MenuBarHorizontal a:focus
    background-color: #666666;
    color: #FFF;
/* Menu items that are open with submenus are set to MenuBarItemHover with a blue background and white text */
ul.MenuBarHorizontal a.MenuBarItemHover, ul.MenuBarHorizontal a.MenuBarItemSubmenuHover, ul.MenuBarHorizontal a.MenuBarSubmenuVisible
    background-color: #999999;
    color: #FFF;
/*My Menu bar test css*/
ul.testtext
    color:#006699;
    font-size:12px;
SUBMENU INDICATION: styles if there is a submenu under a given menu item
/* Menu items that have a submenu have the class designation MenuBarItemSubmenu and are set to use a background image positioned on the far left (95%) and centered vertically (50%) */
ul.MenuBarHorizontal a.MenuBarItemSubmenu
    background-image: url(SpryMenuBarDown.gif);
    background-repeat: no-repeat;
    background-position: 95% 50%;
/* Menu items that have a submenu have the class designation MenuBarItemSubmenu and are set to use a background image positioned on the far left (95%) and centered vertically (50%) */
ul.MenuBarHorizontal ul a.MenuBarItemSubmenu
    background-image: url(SpryMenuBarRight.gif);
    background-repeat: no-repeat;
    background-position: 95% 50%;
/* Menu items that are open with submenus have the class designation MenuBarItemSubmenuHover and are set to use a "hover" background image positioned on the far left (95%) and centered vertically (50%) */
ul.MenuBarHorizontal a.MenuBarItemSubmenuHover
    background-image: url(SpryMenuBarDownHover.gif);
    background-repeat: no-repeat;
    background-position: 95% 50%;
/* Menu items that are open with submenus have the class designation MenuBarItemSubmenuHover and are set to use a "hover" background image positioned on the far left (95%) and centered vertically (50%) */
ul.MenuBarHorizontal ul a.MenuBarItemSubmenuHover
    background-image: url(SpryMenuBarRightHover.gif);
    background-repeat: no-repeat;
    background-position: 95% 50%;
BROWSER HACKS: the hacks below should not be changed unless you are an expert
/* HACK FOR IE: to make sure the sub menus show above form controls, we underlay each submenu with an iframe */
ul.MenuBarHorizontal iframe
    position: absolute;
    z-index: 1010;
    filter:alpha(opacity:0.1);
/* HACK FOR IE: to stabilize appearance of menu items; the slash in float is to keep IE 5.0 from parsing */
@media screen, projection
    ul.MenuBarHorizontal li.MenuBarItemIE
        display: inline;
        f\loat: left;
        background: #FFF;

Because you have centered the menu items you need to take special care not to upset the apple cart.
To center the menu items properly have a look here: http://foundationphp.com/tutorials/sprymenu/centering.php and while you are at it have a look at customizing a Spry menu as well.
After you have done that and made the appropriate chenges, please return here with further questions.
Ben

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Hi everyone,
My website is working fine in Firefox and Chrome, but my spry menu doesn't show up correctly in IE 8. When I view the site in IE, the spry menu shows up as a white rectangle and the submenus appear too high up on the page. If anyone could help me figure out how to fix this, that would be great.
I noticed that in Firefox/chrome, the positioning of the submenus starts counting from the top of the spry menu (40px down), but in IE it seems to start counting from the top of the page?
Here's a link to my website: http://www.student.kuleuven.be/~s0183195/index.html
I'm using the latest version of spry.
Thanks for your time,
Tine

That's much better, thank you!
However, the submenus still appear too far to the right side. When I do a local preview in IE via Dreamweaver everything looks fine, but when I upload my files and view the site online the submenus appear under the word next to the selected word.
Thanks!
Edit: I just noticed that if I turn off the compatibility view in IE, the submenus appear as they should. Is there a way to make them appear correctly with the compatibility view turned on as well?

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I have a Spry Menu Bar that works beautifully on most pages
of my site, but it does not function at all – not even the
top-level links – on
this
page where I have used relative and absolute positioning of
other objects to create CSS image rollovers.
If I comment out the link to the CSS file, the menu bar works
normally. Also, if I comment out any of the positioning rules in
the CSS file, the menu bar functions as usual – but I want my
image rollovers.
I have tried giving the other elements a lower z-index, and a
higher z-index, but this did not help. Any ideas?

I have a Spry Menu Bar that works beautifully on most pages
of my site, but it does not function at all – not even the
top-level links – on
this
page where I have used relative and absolute positioning of
other objects to create CSS image rollovers.
If I comment out the link to the CSS file, the menu bar works
normally. Also, if I comment out any of the positioning rules in
the CSS file, the menu bar functions as usual – but I want my
image rollovers.
I have tried giving the other elements a lower z-index, and a
higher z-index, but this did not help. Any ideas?

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Hi folks,
Working on a site with a Spry menu - looks as expected in IE,
but totally
out of whack in FF and Safari. Any suggestions to what I'm
missing?
http://www.applicationdynamics.com/Clients/pwj/
I'm sure I'm just neglecting to configure the CSS correctly
but haven't
found the trick yet.
Thanks!
Lawrence
Cartweaver.com

"Lawrence *Adobe Community Expert*"
<[email protected]> wrote in
message news:g915h6$t2o$[email protected]..
> Never mind.... Got it.
Hi Lawrence,
Maybe you got the part of it you caught as an issue, but it
still doesn't
work very well in IE7. The links are not being treated as
blocks so unless
you are moused over the actual text in a submenu, it will
snap shut.
I'd recommend a better menu, but you should be able to fix
this easily
enough and so long as there are not third-level flyouts,
usability with Spry
is OK.
Al Sparber - PVII
http://www.projectseven.com
Fully Automated Menu Systems | Galleries | Widgets
http://www.projectseven.com/go/Elevators

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Hello technical heros,
I'm having trouble with my website's spry menu bar... here is the site.
As you can see, when you scroll down, the spry menu overlaps the header fixed block, which the rest of the content smoothly scrolls under. How do I tell the spry object to do the same?
I also want the sidebar 2 (menu bar) to be a fixed block like my header and footer. I know how to do this, but when I change the css, it throws my spry menu over to the left of the page, ontop of my sidebar 1.
Help, please!!

Hi,
Have a look here: http://www.w3schools.com/Css/css_positioning.asp
I hope this helps.
Ben

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