Example of workflow using media manager and files with 5DMkII

Greetings,
I hope someone can shed some light on this problem. I am trying to figure out how to take files from the 5DMkII(apple proRes 422) and edit low rez files on a laptop and port them back to a desktop for final hi res finishing? I've read around but I am still confused. haven't found any difinitive answers yet nor a complete tutorial on Media Manager. Please help.
Hassan
using one intel core duo laptop, one intel mac Pro, both with lots of ram and the newest final cut suite.

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=offlineonline+final+cutpro
Shows a surprising number of resources out there. One:
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is a few years old, but the concepts are all still valid.
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