Excise Group in subcontracting challan

hi experts
while creating subcontracting challan nothing displayed in Excise Group
can u anybody explain how make excise group for singapore
thanks
ganesh

Hi,
First ensure following;
Configuration: -
- Go to SPRO > Logistics - General > Tax on Goods Movements > India > Account Determination > Specify Excise Accounts per Excise Transaction > Here maintain as following;
ETT Subtrn Typ DC ind Acct name
57FC            CR     PLABED
57FC            CR     RG23BED
57FC            CR     RG23ECS
57FC            DR     CLEAR
57FC 01         CR     PLABED
57FC 01         CR     RG23AT1
57FC 01         CR     RG23BED
57FC 01         CR     RG23ECS
57FC 01         DR     CLEAR
57NR            CR     CLEAR
57NR            CR     PLABED
57NR            CR     RG23BED
57NR            CR     RG23ECS
57NR            DR     REVERS
57NR 01         CR     CLEAR
57NR 01         CR     PLABED
57NR 01         CR     RG23BED
57NR 01         CR     RG23ECS
57NR 01         DR     REVERS
- And then go to SPRO > Logistics - General > Tax on Goods Movements > India > Account Determination > Specify G/L Accounts per Excise Transaction > Here do Account Determination for the above combination and Excise Group
Apart from above also do following configuration for Subcontracting;
- SPRO > Logistics - General > Tax on Goods Movements > India > Business Transactions > Subcontracting > Subcontracting Attributes
Here maintain following;
Excise Group         XX
Excise TT            57FC
Subtransaction Type 01
Subtran Type Text   57FC CHALLAN
Subc. Period        180
Rate-subcontracting
Mvt Grp Issues      0001
Mvt Grp Receipt     0002
Filter Non exise
EI Items            10
No. range no.       01
***. Val. /Exc Inv
Subcon Output Type J1IF
- SPRO > Logistics - General > Tax on Goods Movements > India > Business Transactions > Subcontracting > Maintain Movement Type Groups
Here maintain following
MVT. Grp. MvT S
0001      101 O
0001      541 O
0002      542
0002      542 O
0002      543 O
- J1I9 - maintain No range for object "J_1I57FC" for series group
Then follow the below process;
Subcontracting without Payment of Duty
- Creation of Subcontracting PO (ME21N)
- Transfer Posting of Components to Subcontractor (Mvmt Type - 541) (MB1B/ME2O/MIGO)
- Creation of Subcontracting Challan w.r.t. Transfer Posting Doc (J1IF01)
- Goods Receipt w.r.t. Subcontracting PO and Refer Subcontracting Challan at the time of GR (MIGO) {GR with 101 and autoconsumption of components with 543 movement}
- Reconciliation of Subcontracting Challan (J1IFQ)
- Completion of Subcontracting Challan (J1IF13)
- Generation of Annexure IV (J1IFR)
Master Data
- MM01- Material Masters for Components and FG
- XK01 - Vendor Master (Subcontractor)
- CS01 - BOM for FG
- ME11 - Purchase Inforecord for Subcontracting

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