Existing wireless network in client mode

Hi,
I' m trying to join my existing wireless network in client mode. I' ve followed the directions of "AirPort Express: How to join an existing wireless network in client mode"(http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=302153) with success, but when i try to play a song, itunes can' t join the network. I' ve try to configure it again but airport admin utility can' t scan it.
Thanks

Hey I am having the same problem.
I have a home network with a netgear router I am following the instructions to join the existing network. After I join I can play music over airtunes but I do not have Internet access. I restart the Airport Express and then my computer and now I get Internet access but I can see there is a base station connected but it timesout when I try to connect to it.
What did you do to fix it?

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Joining an existing wireless network with airport express

Ok, am almost to the point of throwing my AX across the room
AM trying to join an existing wireless network, its from a 2Wire gateway
one of three things happen
it won't find the AX in the first place
it recognizes it, but i can't connect to it
it goes through the configuration and when it restarts the AX, it can't reconnect to either the router or the AX and it fails. if this happens i can't reconnect to my wireless network without deleting it and re-adding.
it doesn't show up in my available wireless networks at all
protected via WEP, and i have tried using all the security options.

The directions are in KB 302153, AirPort Express: How to join an existing wireless network in client mode.
Are you using MAC address access control in addition to WEP?
Turn off WEP and see if that makes a difference?
One of the problems with WEP is that the actual standard relies on a 10 character HEX key for 40bit WEP and a 26 character HEX key for 128bit WEP.
In order to make things easier for people, vendors use certain algorithms to convert simple alphanumeric passwords (or passphrases) into HEX keys, thus enabling people to use simple memorable WEP password rather than lengthy HEX keys.
The problem is that different vendors use different algorithms to generate the HEX key and therefore a ASCII password on an AEBS will be hashed differently on a Netgear client and vice versa.
One thing is a 13 character 128 bit WEP password will be hashed by all vendors in the same way (if you use 40bit WEP then a 5 character password is required).
Though sometimes not even that works and the HEX key must be used regardless.
Choosing a password for networks that use Wired Equivalent Privacy (WEP)
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=108058
WEP is now considered not to be secure and therefore it is advised you use WPA.
"WPA Personal" on the Mac corresponds to plain WPA, with a pre-shared key (PSK) and TKIP encryption, on non-Apple wireless routers. The same alphanumeric password should work on both.
iFelix

I have a mid-2010 iMac and just purchased a 2TB TC, can't join existing wireless network with AC standard so attached to iMac via ethernet with TC wifi turned off. How do i access TC now? not showing up in disk utility or on desktop. working fine with TM

I have a mid-2010 iMac and just purchased a 2TB TC, I just found out that it can't join existing wireless network with new AC standard so attached to iMac via ethernet with TC's wifi turned off. How do i access TC now? not showing up in disk utility or on desktop. It is working fine with TM. My cheeper seagate drives etc kept crashing, so i didnt trust cheeper back up options anymore. Connected those drives to TM via firewire and could see the drives and access them.
Also, I didn't want to bridge TC with my new fios router that I paid 100 dollars for, to get N speed and also paying 10 dollars more a month for fast speed. I heard that bridging slows down everything and then there can be port issues with mail etc. I connect to the internet via airport only and it is pretty fast. Getting over 50mbs downloads and over 30mbs uploads. Plus everything in my home it connected to my fios router, airport express for music streaming, two apple tvs, vuezone camer system. I really didn't want to monkey around too much with my system. But are there other options to connect the new TC. Can't find info anywhere for this and called apple who gave me the info above. after hanging up, i see that i cant access my TC and I am wondering if i would have to reset it to turn wifi on again to make changes to the drive, turn off blinking light or repair it in disk utility if it should become corrupted.
For other with similar issues i did solve some other problems: when i connected it to my ethernet port on my iMac wifi stopped working. Found that I had to turn off the ethernet in the system>network screen, but then TM didn't see the TC so i restarted after changes and then it saw it.
Now a rant. I can't believe in this wireless age that Apple would make a product that cant join a wireless net work. The apple rep said i could return it and look for the previous TC that would join an existing wireless network. Are we going backwards?
Thanks!
lennydas

Ok... it is getting a bit clearer but there are still some questions.
I connect to the internet via airport only and it is pretty fast.
I was assuming airport in this statement in your first post meant the TC or the Express.. but I now realise we are still in the mass confusion stage where apple calls everything wireless an airport. So what you mean is the airport internal card of the computer??
Also, I didn't want to bridge TC with my new fios router that I paid 100 dollars for, to get N speed and also paying 10 dollars more a month for fast speed. I heard that bridging slows down everything and then there can be port issues with mail etc.
I think this is mistaken.
Putting the TC in bridge mode plugged into your FIOS will not slow the network.. nor will it cause mail or port issues.. in bridge the TC is just a fancy WAP and switch plus the network hard drive.
If the computer is close it will be faster than the FIOS.
You can run both wireless networks with different names.. so it is clear which is which. But you can also setup roaming so the computers themselves pick which is the best wireless.
I tried extending the wireless net work and tried joining wireless network, but the TC kept crashing and I had to keep resetting the TC. the Apple support person said these, extend wireless network and joint wireless network, are no longer a connection option with the new TC because of the new AC protocol.
Thanks again!
You cannot extend to a non-apple wireless router.
You cannot use join a wireless network because when you do the ethernet ports will be cut off.
But that has not changed.. I don't think Apple support is correct.. there has been no change with the AC model.. it is simply a fact that apple routers do not work in join wireless mode other than as a dumb client. The same applies to AC as to the earlier version.. but I have asked another person to check this.
Join in the express is the only apple router that still allows an ethernet connection.
For now you best use of the TC is bridged to the FIOS. Wireless you can sort out between several options.

Can't connect AE to existing wireless network

I can't get my AE to connect to my existing wireless network. I saw the other thread on this and followed those steps, but it didn't work. Here's what I did:
1. Connected the AE to my D-Link DIR-655 wireless router via ethernet cable.
2. Opened Airport Utility and established a connection to the AE.
3. Renamed the AE and entered a password.
4. In the "wireless" tab, I selected "join existing network", chose my wireless network, selected the security type (WPA Personal) and entered the password.
5. In the "music" tab, I named the speakers and entered a password.
So far so good. I clicked "update" and the AE restarted. After a while I received an error message informing me that the base station could no longer be detected. According to the directions posted in the other thread, this is actually supposed to be a sign that the AE is now in client mode and all is well.
I unplugged the ethernet cable from the AE and router and then went to the other room. I plugged the AE into the speakers and then plugged the AE into the wall.
However, instead of a green light all I have is a flashing amber light, even after several minutes. No connection.
I reset the AE and repeated the steps above, to no avail. Still a flashing amber light.
Any ideas?

I'm having a similar issue. My AE is connected directly to a Netgear WGR614v4 router, and I run through all the steps you mentioned. When I choose to update the settings to the AE, I get the same "error" you mentioned about the AE not being found, and I also took that as a sign that I'm in client mode. I moved the AE to the other room, connected my mini cable to the stereo, then plugged the AE back into the wall. The AE runs through its setup and eventually gets a solid green light, so I'm thinking all is well.
The problem is that I then log back into the AirPort Utility on my laptop and the AE is not shown in the top left like it should be. After doing a bit of reading, I've figured out that I can manually find it by going to File>Configure Other and entering the AE's IP address and password. Then I get a window showing the details of the AE, its name, network, encryption, etc. However, if I close this window, it still doesn't show up in the main AirPort Utility screen and I'm not sure how to configure it for AirTunes.
Hoping that's just a bug with the AirPort Utility software, I open up iTunes to see if I can locate it there. I know I should see a pulldown menu at the bottom of iTunes that gives me an option for AE as my audio output method, but the menu is not there. Now I'm completely stuck.
At this point I decide to start from scratch, so I do a Factory Default reset by pressing down the reset button on the AE as I plug it into the wall. Now it is supposedly reset, so I plug it back into my router, then it runs through a setup sequence and lights up solid green before I've even done anything. It shows up in AirPort Utility with a default base station ID, but my computer won't connect to it at all. I'm hoping I can try to reset it again this evening and at least get back to the normal setup screen, but I'm really not sure what I could do differently at this point.
This is frustrating and I'm on the verge of giving up, but I REALLY want this to work out.

I am unable to join my existing wireless network with new AirPort Express

I am unable to join my existing wireless network with new AirPort Express.
I am using a DLink DI-524 Router, Windows 7 (64), and the AirPort Express.
AirPort Utility will not recognize the AEX wirelessly, it will only recognize it when it is connected by Ethernet. I can then configure the AEX and verify that the settings stick once disconnected and then reconnected. However, even after that, it will not recognize the AEX once disconnected from the Ethernet cable.
I followed the suggestions of several other threads on these forums. But I am unable to get the AEX to work.
Any suggestions? Thanks in advance.

Welcome to the discussion area!
It's almost always a security setting that causes problems when the Airport Express (AX) tries to join a third party wireless network. The AX usually does not "join" correctly and that's why you can't see it on your wireless network using AirPort Utility.
Using an ethernet cable is still the more reliable way to configure and adjust the AX, but if you are want to try to configure it using wireless, you must return the AX back to factory defaults as follows:
Power down the AX
Hold in the reset button +and keep holding it in+ as you plug the AX back in to power
Release the reset button after 10 seconds
When it is set to factory defaults, the AX broadcasts a wireless signal with a network name like "apple network xxxxxx" where the "x's" are either letters or numbers. You must look for this network by clicking on the fan shaped Airport icon at the top of the screen. If you don't see this network, then click Join Other Network to search that way. Unless you connect to this network, you will not be able to configure the AX using wireless.
Do you know the exact security type that your D-Link router is using? That is the key element in the process.
Open AirPort utility, click Manual Setup
Click the Base Station tab to establish a name for the AX, device password and adjust time zone settings
Click the Wireless tab
Wireless Mode....Join a wireless network
Wireless Network Name...must exactly match your D-Link wireless network name
Enable ethernet clients if you want the port to be active (your D-Link must be compatible with ProxySTA for this to work)
Wireless Security...exact setting of the D-Link network. WEP security causes a lot of issues. Try to use WPA/WPA2 Personal, which is far more secure.
Wireless Password...must match the D-Link network
Click the Music icon to enable AirTunes
Click Update to save settings
Any luck?

I Can Only See AEBSn Via Existing Wireless Network

I've been able to setup to set up my AEBSn without any problems, but when I try and access it I get an error messaging saying "There was an error joing the AirPort network "NetworkName".
AirPort Utility can only see the AEBSn if I am still using my existing wireless network. If I select AEBSn for my network, the icon disappears from the AirPort Utility program. Rescan doesn't find it. If switch back to my original wireless network AirPort Utility finds the AEBSn again.
In case it matters, my DSL modem has built in wireless.
It seems like I'm able to see that the AEBSn is around, but I just can't connect to it.
Does anyone have any suggestions that might help?
Thanks in advance.
-Michael-

You should have the AEBS configured to work at 2.4 GHz in an 802.11b/g compatible mode.
If the AEBS is set to automatic channel selection, set it to use a fixed channel. Try channel 6.
Disable the wireless portion of your DSL modem. If the wireless part of your DSL modem can't be disabled, ensure that the DSL modem and AEBS are using channels that are as far apart as possible.
If your DSL modem's wireless is still enabled, does it have a different wireless network name than the AEBS?
Is your AEBS configured to operate as a closed network (SSID broadcast disabled)? If so, change that option. A closed network adds no security. The SSID (network name) is still broadcast to any connected clients and therefore easily discovered.

Time capsule connect to existing wireless network

Hi I was wondering if you need to connect time capsule via ethernet to your adsl modem. Can I get the time capsule to join an existing network?
This is because I want to put the time capsule in a different place than my adsl modem.
cheers

It is far superior to use ethernet and plug directly into the adsl modem.
You can join to wireless network.. the option is not available directly in v6 airport utility but is probably part of the setup wizard. I personally just use v5 utility where it is an option.. but you do need to hold the option key to select it.
BUT when you join a wireless network.. the TC loses its ethernet.. and wireless AP modes.. it is a dumb client on the existing wireless network.. the further away it is from the modem the slower it will go.. and double hop wireless will make it extra slow. Overall it is a bad setup.

Connect to Existing Wireless Network Using Airport Express?

I would like to use my airport express to connect to an existing wireless network set up in my apartment. The wireless router (linksys) is set up in my roommate's room to his desktop. I have a printer in my room and would like to use the airport express to connect to this existing network so that my roommates and i can print wirelessly. I need to keep the printer in my room.
Is there a way to do this? Please advise.
Thanks.

Is the LinkSys a WRT54G? If so, you have two options. If not, only the first option below is available to you:
1. You can configure the Express to connect as a wireless client. You won't be able to connect wirelessly directly to the Express in this mode; you have to connect through the router.
2. With the proper firmware in the WRT54G, you can set up a Wireless Distribution System (WDS). In this configuration, not only can the Express be used for printing and AirTunes, but it will also extend the range of your wireless network.

Can I use a airport express to get internet connection to a Mac Mini that doesn't have wireless by adding it to my existing wireless network?

I bought a first gen Mac Mini for our daughter and it doesn't have internal airport adapter and was wondering if I got a airport express can I plug it in my daughters room and use it as a local router and just use the eithernet connect from it. Or would a airport extreme work better for this job. I have a wireless cable modem that we connect to. I also have a second question I have a iMac G4 that picks up the wireless signal but will not connect to it does it have to be a Apple airport for it to work or should it be able to connect to any broadcasted signal. Thanks for the help.

I'm not sure I quite understand. Do you wish to use the AEX to provide a wireless connection for a device that has an Ethernet port but no wireless capability of its own? You wish to use it in place of a wireless card that isn't internally installed? If so, the answer is, "Yes." It will work as a wireless access point. But you must have an extant wireless network because the AEX won't have an Internet connection when used in this way.
If you have an existing wireless network with a wireless router connected to your cable/DSL model or your modem is a wireless router as well, then the AEX may connect to it in bridge mode. Note that AEXs don't always play nice with non-Apple routers. Some work; others don't.

Can't joint existing wireless network

I have an AX used only for iTunes. It's set up wirelessly. It recently stopped working and I can't get the AX to re-connect to the existing wireless network. No matter what I try, all I get is a blinking amber light on the AX.
I have a Netgear wireless router, an iMac wired to the wireless router, and a PowerBook G4 that's wireless. I've only used the PowerBook to send iTunes to the AX.
I've hard-reset the AX and have tried both utilities (Airport Setup Assistant and Airport Admin Utility) reconnect to the wireless network. The set-up process goes fine but after the last step (Update), the AX reboots but never shows up in iTunes.
Another thing I've noticed, but don't know its relevance to the current problem: when I reset the AX with (because I've tried resetting without) the ethernet line connected, the reset results in a solid green light (yay). But when I unplug the ethernet line, it goes back to blinking amber.
Help! I need my music.

Give this a whirl. Reset your AX so that it's in a factory default state. Go to your Airport icon on your Mac and connect to the AX rather than your own network, and set up the AX there. Leave it for the time being as being a separate network. Then go into the Airport utility and you'll see the AX. Can't remember which tab it's under, but there is an option there to have the AX join a wireless network as a client. Tell it to do that and save your settings, and it should be fine. My experience of setting up an AX via ethernet is that it promptly forgets everything after you disconnect it.

Can't connect to existing wireless network

I have a Qwest wireless modem (model 2701hg-d) and am trying to set up the Airport Express (AX) to use already existing wireless network wirelessly (ie without the ethernet cable). Is this possible? Do I need a wireless router instead?
In order to set it up I have the AX plugged into the modem via an ethernet cable. I have reset the AX and then run the Admin Utility. Once it recognizes the AX I then go to the Airport tab and select 'Join an Existing wireless Network (wireless client)' and then enter in the Network Name exactly as it is spelled in my modem configuration. I check the 'Internet' tab and it says connect using: Wireless Network and the 'Network' tab is grayed out. Then I hit update and the admin utility no longer lists the AX and the AX light is blinking amber. Not sure what is going on. I am using v6.3 of the firmware. I have read the posts extensively and am wondering if my modem is not capable of handling this?

Hi
Not exactly certain if your situation is like mine, but you could check out this previous post:
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=917767&tstart=0
If you are trying to achieve wireless bridging then I don’t think APX will work with that particular router.
HTH

Hi I am hoping to add my 2 TB time capsule to my existing wireless network using cisco dpq 3925 modem. I have two mbp one running Yosemite and the other os 10.7.5

I have a time capsule 2TB model 1409. I would like to connect it to my existing wireless network (using a cisco DPQ 3925 modem). I have two mac book pro one running Yosemite and the other OS 10.7.5. The best I can do is to connect the TC to the Modem via ethernet. Have one of my MBP connect to the time capsule using a ethernet cable and have the TB set to bridge mode. In this configuration, both mbp and the iPad can detect the TC but when I try to connect it to the wireless network, using the same network name and password, the light flashes amber and I cannot detect the time capsule again.

Correct..
The best I can do is to connect the TC to the Modem via ethernet.
The TC does not connect to non-apple routers by wireless.. well. It is possible but so poor a method that Apple seem to have eliminated it in the setup wizard.. I would take that as a good thing..
If you cannot use ethernet you have two choices..
Use another apple router that is plugged into the Cable modem.. eg a second hand Extreme Gen5 or the latest Express.. the Extreme is both cheaper and better.
Or you can use a set of EOP (homeplug) adapters.. but they cannot be guaranteed to work so you should buy from a place that allows returns.

Time Capsule as External HD and backup in an existing wireless network

I have had some difficulty having the issue solved. I have also had an an appointment at the Apple Genius Bar to solve the issue but was unsuccessful.
I am trying to see if I can use the Time Capsule in an existing wireless network as an external hard drive and backup.
I am unable to use Time Capsule as a wireless networking device because our wireless network at home is already configured for Vonage (Voice Over IP) and our DSL is with Verizon. We had to have a specialist come to our home to set up that network and I hope to not interfere with it unless I know what I am doing.
Is the Time Capsule a device you can use to store and retrieve data? My Macbook's HD is nearly full and I want to clear up some space but would like to have easy access to the data. Is it possible to use it as a backup as I would simultaneously use it as an external HD?
I was told to put the Time Capsule in "bridge" mode to solve my networking issues. Could I use the Time Capsule in bridge mode wirelessly as an external HD to store and retrieve data and backup data without interfering with my wireless internet network? Is this only possible with ethernet?

@Joop
TC can handle TM and other backups at the same time.
The TC is much slower (and more expensive) than a "normal" external drive, because everything has to go via WiFi. Especially when you are going to place Libraries on it.
So I suggest that you acquire an exeternal backup disk.
Second:
if you want to place Libraries on the same disk as your backups/TM: when that disk goes down you do not have any backup for your Libraries (even when you partition the disk to separate between backup and libraries). Think about that. Imagine how you feel when you loose your photo library....
Third:
So all in all, I suggest to have two SEPARATE external disks.

Can Time Capsule Join Existing Wireless Network?

I currently work in a building with a wireless network. In my own office, I use AX to join that wireless network and I connect a local printer to the USB port.
From some posts, I've gotten the idea that the Time Capsule will not join an existing wireless network.
Is that the case?

That is correct - Time Capsule cannot be configured to function as a wireless client on an existing wireless network. The only Apple Airport product currently able to do that is the Airport Express device.
It can be configured as a remote base station in a wireless distribution system (WDS), but this would require the wireless network's main base station to be another Time Capsule or any model of Airport Extreme base station.

Time Capsule in existing Wireless Network

I've got an existing WiFi network: it is a DSL modem/router (Netgear). And I've got several computers connected to the Internet from this AP.
Now, I've recently purchased a Time Capsule so that I can perform back-ups of my MacBook Pro. But I want to know what is the best way to connect the new Time Capsule, giving the following requirements:
I don't want to share the data on the Time Capsule with all other computers. For now, this should just be for my own back-up.
I want to preferably transfer/access the capsule at the best performance rate, i.e. 5GHz., and wirelessly.
I want to try not disrupt any of the other people who is currently connected to the existing wireless network.
The Netgear AP I've got at the moment is operating at 2.2GHz over the g/b mode.
What options do I have? From what I've read so far, I see two opttions, but let me know what is the best, or also, if there are other better options:
Connet the capsule to "join" the existing wireless network. However, my question is, then at what speed would by MacBook be accessing and transfering to the capsule. Would it be bottlenecked by the existing wireless router at 2.2GHz?
Or, Connect the capsule to create a new dedicated network operating over 5GHz (only) on the N-mode. This would be in bridge-mode, where the existing router would handle DHCP, etc.
Could someone please advise what's the best course of action, that would give best performance and why? My understanding might not be complete about what I specified above, but if someone could please guide, it would be appreciated. thanks.

Connect the printer to the USB port on the Time Capsule and make sure everything is powered on.
On your Mac, open System Preferences (gear icon on the dock)
Open Print & Scan, or it might be Print & Fax depending on your operating system
Click the + (plus) button at the bottom of the printer list on the left side of the window
Hopefully.....your printer or printer family will appear in the next window
It is does, click on the name of the printer to highlight it
Click Add at the lower right
Try to print a test document
Be sure to select the correct printer location when the print dialog appears. If you previously printed when the printer was connected directly to the Mac, it will appear as if you have two of the same printers installed.
A careful look will reveal that you have two printer "locations"...one at the Mac and the other at the Time Capsule. You have to choose the correct "location" at the Time Capsule
You may need to power off the printer again and restart it if printing does not work on the first try.
You will need to "install" the printer from each Mac that you have when you try to print.
If you have any PCs, you will need to download, install and run Bonjour Print Services for Windows v2.0.2 to select the printer and "install" it on the PC.

Existing wireless network in client mode

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