Expected internal/CPU temps for MEGA 865?

What are the typical CPU/internal temperatores for the MEGA865?
Mine is running about 55C for the CPU and 41C case temp.
Is that high or ok?
I haven't tested at full load yet.

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I'd rather MSI just mailed me a fan, not a whole heatsink. Bubble wrap one and drop it in a FedEx overnight envelop.
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god damn thats a great idea, why didnt I think of that
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As I recall the idle temperature used to be over 60c and now it sometimes drops below 50c. But most of the times its around 53-55c (all of this is at around 25c ambient temperature). But the heat problem while gaming is still a huge problem. When it hits around 70 the computer crashes.
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:nono:Dear,
I would like to ask you for your assistance.
I have purchased your product(MSI MEGA 865 barebone)and also processor
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Odd problem, I did not see that problem when I inserted my CPU .
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