Expense app for Tungsten T3 & Palm Desktop?

I have an old Tungsten T3 which serves me well. Recently I started using the Expense app (v. 4.5.1P) that comes with its Palm OS (v.5.2.1).
I noticed there was no Expense app on the Palm Desktop which I am running under Windows XP SP2. So I re-downloaded the latest version of Palm Desktop for the T3: version 4.1.4e. That's the latest version that the palmOne Website said was available for the T3 and Windows XP.
If I click Palm Desktop » Help » About Palm Desktop » Version » General, I see, in the Files pane, "Expcn20.dll (not found)". I guess this .dll is the one for the Expense app.
On another posted thread, Expense Tracking missing desktop 4.1.4, I note that the Expense app exists for Palm Desktop v. 4.2. But the palmOne Website told me the latest version for my T3 and Windows XP was v. 4.1.4e.
Questions:
Has anyone tested Palm Desktop v. 4.2 on the Tungsten T3?
Is the Expense app available on the cd-rom version of Palm Desktop v. 4.1.4e? (which I don't have)
Is it possible to somehow download Expcn20.dll and add it to installation of Palm Desktop v. 4.1.4e?
Any other suggestions? (not including "Buy a newer handheld", because I'm a poor student )
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The Palm Desktop which is available for free download from the Palm Support site, version 4.1.4e, is a generic version in that it is useable for a variety of devices, but does not have all of the desktop applications (i.e. Expense, Media). That's because not all handheld models come with all of those applications, and the downloadable version is really intended to be a backstop for basic synchronization only.
To obtain the Expense application for your desktop, you would need to use the original installation disc for your device.
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If you are making the jump from Windows to Mac, it might be easier for you to export your data from the Windows side using a comma separated values (.csv) file and importing that data into the PIM application on the Mac. The Palm Desktop software for the Mac, is, in my opinion, terrible (and I'm a Mac user).
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