Expired Backup

Hi all,
I am using RMAN as a primary tool for BAckup & Recovery. It is consistently syncronizing itself regarding my archived log filles and when I execute 'List Copy' command , it shows all the archived logs . One day I executed crosscheck command for archived logs and found that few are expired . so I wanted to delete them using 'Delete Expired' command . but it didn't worked . Moreover there is an error of validation fail for those expired archivelogs .
Please help me .
Thanks
Akhilesh

Unqualified LIST or CROSSCHECK commands are likely to take a long time when you have many days or weeks of archived logs on tape/disk. You need to learn some RMAN syntax. For example:
LIST BACKUP OF DATABASE COMPLETED AFTER "SYSDATE-1";
This will eliminate archived logs and restrict your query to the last 24 hours.
Expired backups need to be deleted in a special way. However, before offering further advice I would echo the request of the previous helper and ask you to post your error messages.
Chin up. We'll help you out here.
--Tony
http://tonyhasler.wordpress.com

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