Export of Technical System - Third Party?!

Hi,
i want to export technical system in SLD - Dev to SLD - Prod via download the zip file.
This option seems to be not possible for Third Party Systems. All other systems i can export!
Can anybody confirm this and tell me the reason?!
What else do i have to follow up while exporting Development Content from XI Dev to XI Prod?!
br Carsten

I am having the same problem.... Did some checking...
under http://XXXXXX:50000/sld/gen/ListServlet?databrowser=true
content maintenance
Subset: systemlandscape description
Class Third Party Systems
It says:
Describes a third-party system managed by the SAP Solution manager. In contrast to the superclass SAP_ApplicationSystem, these third-party systems are not registered or entered in the SLD directly, but written by the SAP Solution Manager.
It looks like you cannot export this definition?????
When you recreate your system type to standalone it works....our did you find another solution?

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Can any pls explain with technical details and steps how do i configure sap xi with third party application and what type of connectivity and interfacing communication channel is preffered?
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Ameet Jassani
Message was edited by:
Ameet Jassani

Hi
 
This is a very generic question. There are some getting started guides available in the main XI section on SDN, and also some step-by-step guides in the wiki section. A quick search will get you tons of information.
 
The choice of connectivity and interfacing communication channel is really dependent on the capabilities of the third party system.
 
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