Export RAW to JPEG too SMALL?

When I export a 9.5mb RAW/NEf file to jpeg, (100% quality, 240 ppi, default, original size), the jpeg file size is around 2-3mb.
If I convert the RAW/NEF file in the Nikon Editor, the jpeg version is around 6-7mb...much better.
I can't give my clients jpegs burned onto a DVD that are only 2-3mb?? Especially if they want good 8x10's, or 11x14's!! Not very professional.
Is it compressing it more than Nikon Editor, or am I missing something?

You should look at the files, not at their sizes. You cannot judge quality from filesize. There is no reason you couldn't get an outstanding 12x18 from a 2 MB jpeg file. Often the only thing bigger files do is take up more space.
>Is it compressing it more than Nikon Editor, or am I missing something?
You might be scaling by accident, but usually the image is just not very complex. The filesize you get in jpeg is related to complexity of the image. If you have large areas of solid color, the filesize will turn out small. If you have lots of noise and lots of complex shapes (like a grass field for example) you will get large files.

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