Export RAW to JPG question

Hello,
Here is once again a problem that I guess has to do with color management, and I'm having a hard time figuring out my mistake.
I'm editing my RAW files in Lightroom 5 and then export them to JPG (my settings are JPEG 100% / sRGB / no sharpening or any other editing option).
Then, to compare the RAWs and the JPGs, I import those JPGs back into Lightroom to make sure I'm seeing them with the same color profile (as I guess the basic "Preview" application I'm using on my MacBook is not color managed).
My problem is that the JPGs are much brighter than the RAW files (see screenshots).
I didn't calibrate my MacBook Pro's monitor (I'm just using Mac OS' standard color-LCD preset), and I'm not expecting other users to see my pics the way I see them on my screen, I'm ok with that, but I thought that on my own computer I would not see any differences between my RAW files and the JPGs I exported from those RAW files.
I found some similar threads on that topic, but usually the problem was that the users were checking the JPGs in a tool that was not color managed, and so it would not match what they saw in Lightroom, but since I do check my exported JPGs in Lightroom, I assumed they would be represented within the same color space, with no noticeable differences...
I'd appreciate if someone could tell me what I'm doing wrong!
Thank you!

To tell you the truth, a client asking for a 3MB JPG is a very meaningless thing to do.
Any time you are changing the number of pixels on a side, you are changing the image quality. Any time you are forcing the photo to be a certain size in MB other than the maximum, you are accepting a certain reduction in image quality. Which is worse? It all depends on the original, and how much change you are asking for.
So, that's my answer ... IT ALL DEPENDS.

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http://www.flickr.com/photos/carloscervantes/2536040124/meta/
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Regarding your file size questions, have a look at this thread and see if it answers some of your questions:
http://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/741532/0
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Dimensions and resolution are related and multiple combinations can be produced from the same number of pixels. For example, your 50D at maximum image size produces 4,752 by 3,168 pixels. This full-size image could be printed at:
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- 7.92 x 5.28 inches at 600 PPI
As you can maybe see, talking about dimensions and resolution doesn't make much sense until you are ready to consider printing. Note also that I used "PPI" or Pixels Per Inch since this is the slightly more correct terminology. DPI or "Dots Per Inch" is usually a reference to how a printer lays down the ink drops onto the paper. Many printers actually put more "dots" on the paper than there are pixels. Many people and companies use DPI when they mean PPI.
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http://laurashoe.com/2011/08/21/sharpening-in-lightroom-part-one-overview-and-capture-shar pening/
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Export CR2 files from Camera via memory card reader
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Open Geosetter and keyword photos as well as geotag (I know LR4 does this, however, geosetter allows me to keyword much easier as well as geotag)
Import CR2 files into LR
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Export photos as JPG
Export photos as DNG (to keep edits)
Create a subfolder named DNG to keep as well as the original downloaded CR2 files from the camera
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The workflow I originally inquired on in my first post:
Export CR2 files from Camera via memory card reader
Create folder structure with date and then subfolder named RAW that holds the CR2 files
Open Geosetter and keyword photos as well as geotag (I know LR4 does this, however, geosetter allows me to keyword much easier as well as geotag)
Import CR2 files into LR
Edit photos
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Export photos as "original" (to keep edits) which creates a .cr2 file (I'm guessing a copy- hopefully a 1:1 copy) and a sidecar file that contains the edits
My question was regarding step 7 in this new workflow, my concern is that the LR copy of the .cr2 file is actually EXACTLY the same as the original .CR2 file from my camera.
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Lost metadata in file after attempt to Save RAW As JPG in PS CS3

Someone in other place in this Forum advised me that this will be probably more appropriate place to ask these questions, so I will give it a go. Below is a copy of my post on PS Windows thread (well, two posts really edited into one):
Hi,
I have just found out that after I open RAW pictures from my Canon 5D (but same happens with pictures from Canon 10D) in PS and than try to save them as JPGs, I loose majority of my metadata from the files (after right click on filename in. I can still Windows Explorer and clicking Properties or simply adding additional columns in Win XP Windows Explorer detailed view.
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Was trying to look for any setting in PS that would set the ability to save or abandon saving of this type of information in JPG file but could not find anything of this kind.
What is interesting I went back to my pictures I have saved from RAW to JPG using same PS years ago, and I this was not a problem. Everything was saving OK.
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1. This would not be a problem related to camera (it is unlikely that same problem would occur on two different models at the same time - even though both are Canons)
2. It must be a way to force the Photoshop to do that, I f I was able to do it successfully, almost without knowing, before.
Therefore, I would think that either:
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2. That it came as some kind of bug with some of the updates to PS CS3 that I was getting over last year from Adobe.
Has any one else encountered similar problem? If yes, what did you do to resolve this issue?
I will be very grateful for any help, as I am not a frequent user of Adobe Photoshop and may just not be very familiar with the part that regulates that type of issues.
And I do not use the Save for Web option.
I just used (in PS CS3 running on Win XP Professional with SP3) the Save As from File menu.
What is also strange is that if I use File - Open command and get the first window with Open dialog box, where you have some basic options for opening/converting RAW format pictures (this window does not come up when I open JPG files) and I use existing there button to Save (which does not actually allow to do any editing of the picture before such way of saving) all Camera Properties, or that metadata, is actually saved into the newly created JPG quite correctly.
However if I use button Open in that conversion dialog box, and than save already opened RAW file as JPG, the majority of that data is gone (date picture taken, exposure time, aperture, focal length, exposure compensation steps etc).
I can see that RAW file has all this in the sections called EXIF and XMP (under File - File Information) but Save As does not add this info in the JPG files for some reason.

No, not really, because I ma not sure what it is for.
I just used (in PS CS3 running on Win XP Proffessional) the Save As from File menu.
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Any and all advice welcome! (Preferably in layman's terms, though. I'm already overwhelmed by all of the techie jargon).

My advice:
Stop wasting your time doing jpg and nefs - just do nefs.
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I'm frustating about how Aperture give RAW+jpg pairs and once imported is not easy to select one of the two files depending on the case. I read recently a good solution, you can import Both as masters(RAW and JPG) and select AutoStack(⌥⌘A)
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Anyone know how I can export my RAW files from Aperture? The only options I have are to export either in JPG or TIFF/PSD. I'd to export my 18MB RAW files as the same size (18MB) and not in TIFF because the TIFF file would be over 30MB.
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Hi,
I've update both Apple & Adobe Photoshop CS2 support file on my iMac, and vertified that both Aperture & Photoshop reads my camera's raw files.
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I wanted to export raw to photoshop to edit it and get the final fixed version back in aperture, the way i used to do with '.jpg' files.
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I'm importing all my pictures in Aperture, how do i export raw image to photoshop, when I Control-Click a picture in aperture and select Photoshop the image is transalated as '.psd'.< </div>
I just use Export Master and then pop the raw file open in PS. I do no understand the need for an Automator-ized hot folder to do this for you.
Personal Workflow note: I have no need to bring the image back into Aperture. I don't use Aperture to track versions from external editors. I find this needlessly clutters Aperture and my Phtoshop versions are almost always job-specific. I keep them in a client-specific folder, not in Aperture. But that's just how we work at my shop.
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Hi,
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I know this is an old thread, but I have the same problem and am hoping perhaps to get some new feedback. I also have used all the same settings,
the best quality settings that I can do on export, but the quality I get when I convert to JPG is very poor. I do save at 100% because I want to send some of my images to stock agencies that want JPGs but at the very best possible quality. I have experimented in changing the resolution to 300, resizing to 18MP (which is the native size from my camera (Canon 7D), leaving the resizing box unchecked, and tried all all levels and types of sharpening, and none of these settings makes any improvement. I honestly do not think this is an issue of color calibration. The images that I get when I convert from RAW to JPG are are very poor quality, but not so much noise as they appear pixelated. I am going to try to attach a screen capture of a RAW image and a JPG that has been converted. Realize there is a bit of loss of quality in both of these images as they were done by the print screen function, then saved as BMP and then JPG..But doing it this way actually produced a much better quality image than exporting the RAW file to JPG in LR3. Both of these images were saved at 100%
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Thank you.
Message was edited by: wyeaton
I'm sorry that the images do not appear to be showing up on the thread. They do show up when I uploaded them and when I edit them, but I don't see them once I do the update. Any suggestions there would be appreciated as well.
Thanks.

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