Export to PDF as grayscale

I am using a trial version of InDesign CS3 on XP Pro and have a need to create a PDF in grayscale. Is there a way to do this using Export? I tried using print to Acrobat Distiller with Composite Gray set and that works fine. Is Distiller the only way to accomplish this?
Thanks in advance for the help.

No, but it is the only way to do it in one step if your content isn't already grayscale. You can use the export output options to specify a color profile, but only CMYK or RGB, no grayscales.
The advantage of exporting rather than distilling is you can keep live transparency and interactive elements, but as I said, no grayscale export. You can, however, convert to grayscale in Acrobat Pro once you've made the PDF.
The downside to this automatic conversion, either in Acrobat or in printing to PDF, is you have absolutely no control over the conversion and consequently no choice in the tonal values and contrast. You'll get better looking documents if you do things the hard way and convert your images separately in Photoshop using any one of a variety of techniques. Why does the PDF need to be grayscale?
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    We build a lot of custom Oracle Reports right now so that users can drill from one level to another. With OracleBI Discoverer, I can now do this with linking to sheets. With Oracle Reports, I can render the report in PDF format which is a business requirement. With OracleBI Discoverer, I can do this too except I can't export the PDF because it doesn't fit on the page correctly.
    Anyone else need this functionality?
    On another "enhancement request" note, I would like to be able to schedule exports. OracleBI Discoverer is getting close to providing an alternative to Oracle Reports which is great because it is faster to build and deploy reports and it is licensed by the CPU so I don't have to worry about buying Report Builder licenses. Lastly, business users can build their own reports rather than someone in IT doing it.

    ok, here's what I have found out (thanks to our Viewer guru, Matthew):
    The print/PDF preferences are currently not saved, so you are right when you say you have to re-apply those settings.
    However, there is a way to persist these changes within a session (note that since these changes are session-resident only, you will lose them once you exit Viewer).
    The short one line explanation of the workaround is to make the changes using the 'Printable Page' link, generate a 'Preview' or the entire PDF report, and then use the worksheet breadcrumb link to return to the worksheet. This ensures that the PDF changes you made are available during the sesion to the worksheet. You can always undo these settings by clicking the 'Revert to saved' link.
    I have posted the same information, but with screenshots, to http://oraclebi.blogspot.com/2005/12/pdf-settings-in-viewer.html
    Thanks
    Abhinav
    Oracle Business Intelligence Product Management
    BI on Oracle: http://www.oracle.com/bi/
    BI on OTN: http://www.oracle.com/technology/products/bi/
    Discoverer: http://www.oracle.com/technology/products/discoverer/
    BI Beans: http://www.oracle.com/technology/products/bib/
    BI Software: http://www.oracle.com/technology/software/products/ias/devuse.html
    Documentation: http://www.oracle.com/technology/documentation/appserver1012.html
    BI Samples: http://www.oracle.com/technology/products/bi/samples/
    OTN Forum: Discoverer
    Blog: http://oraclebi.blogspot.com/

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