Export via Motion or Compressor?

I have a 2-minute motion graphics video that I put together in Motion 3. I want to export it for the web (YouTube, etc.) and so I'm using H.264. Assuming I'm not getting into Compressor's fancy batching / clustering features, are there any advantages to exporting via Compressor as opposed to direct from Motion?
Thanks,
Scott

You haven't said if the original video you imported into Motion is MP4 or H.264 or some other highly compressed media. It won't matter what you export if those "damaged" frames are in the original (and mp4/h.264/etc are prone to bad frames at the very beginning and very end depending on how they were prep'd for delivery).
You should (I'd say always, except I'd be a hypocrite) transcode original media into ProRes (any flavor) before importing into Motion. Check frame by frame if you have to to see if there's any damaged frames (usually there won't be.) I'd highly recommend using Quicktime 7 Pro (it's still available from apple's online store at apple.com) to transcode your video. Others might recommend MPEGStreamclip (but I just can't); or if you have it: Compressor.
If you have Final Cut Pro X, you'd be better off editing video in that app. You should be designing your Motion "add-ons" as effects, titles, transitions or generators for use in FCPX and leaving the video completely out of Motion. FCPX also takes care of transcoding to prores for you (opt to Transcode Optimized Media when importing.)
PS - you'll get better performance out of Motion if you use ProRes video. (Same goes for AIFF/WAV audio and NOT mp3.)
Hope this helps... otherwise I don't know what the problem would be.

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I surely do not take it personal. I have learned that you folks in this group are the best resource I have. I know I am in way over my head. I truly do not know about codecs.
I have taken Motion directly in to FCP - but I didn't think it would work this time. I should have tried.
Someone came along at work and told me to use Visual Hub and use setting for mp4, and also try using the DV - ready for FCP - I did both. I really never think of it as wasted effort if I can learn by what I doing, and that is occurring as you are all explaining to me what I should be doing.
Now as for workflow - I think I did the right thing by starting with Motion, then with the big file sizes went to Visual Hub - but probably could have just gone to opening the Motion files in FCP - then rendering out for DVSP.
System settings are a boggle to me - so I just use NTSC - DV 720x480 and hope that works - so far the results in my projects are good.
Again, Thank you for taking time to explain - I appreciate all comments.

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I'm editing in FCP and making a menued SD DVD. I've had success in laying out the DVD project.
The source material is low quality and duration overall a few minutes. I'm adding a few supers to the clips.
My question is, will I get better result exporting via compressor or via a QT export (using current settings PAL 25FPS 16:9)?
Thanks in advance.
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what you're doing is actually fine. But, generally, the following workflow is reccommended. It gives you more control if not better quality. Depending on your source (large or small frame size) you can adjust resizing and motion compensation and other parameters:
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hi moonduck
can't solve the problem, but might have a work around. i often have problems with using compressor via motion. But all problems disappear if I drag the motion project into fcp and export through compressor from there.
hth
adam

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I've been trying to export portions of certain Motion projects, but I prefer to use Compressor to take advantage of my cluster. However, Compressor insists on ignoring the "Duration" setting. It will only ever export the "Entire Sequence", and if "In/Out Points" is selected, it won't care.
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My project takes about 2 minutes to render out directly from Motion, but compressor says its going to take 3 hours?
I know the compressor speed issue was a big deal for a while there, but I never noticed anything like this.
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When I export using motion 2 it takes about 2 minutes...if I say go from compressor, then go over to compressor and hit submit...it takes forever to start, then it crawls and I quit...
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EDIT, FALSE ALARM.
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Hello
I just finish making my video in FCP X, i would like to export it now using compressor, i prefer to not lose much uality, and i want to export it to .m2ts file (AVCHD) but i have no idea how?
(video is about 18min long, 10-15GB size is ok)
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I keep getting artifacts randomly throughout the videos I export, whether i export directly from motion or via compressor, and regardless of which "Share" option I choose or which codec I use (including ProRes - all of them). I've tried literally every preset and even made my own. Its very frustrating because even one artifact messes up the whole video and I have to export it again.
The artifacts show up randomly throughout the videos so its not one particular asset that is a problem. And sometimes it even exports perfectly except that a video at the end (which is admittedly not from a high quality source) shows up SUPER pixelated. This is just as bad.
I've spent the last 48 hours rendering and rerendering the videos. Saving as a new motion file. Clearing cache and library files and pram and restarting. Nothing helps.
This is on top of the fact that I have, in the past, exported properly from compressor (but never from motion for anything more than a few seconds). And I tired this on two computers, one more powerful than the other. One computer is a Macbook Pro w/ core i7, SSD, and 8gb ram. The other was a Macbook air with Core2Duo and 4gb ram. Both of them sucked at exporting the movie. (The air was slower but actually better than the macbook pro.) I'm on the latest mavericks and the latest motion and compressor.
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You haven't said if the original video you imported into Motion is MP4 or H.264 or some other highly compressed media. It won't matter what you export if those "damaged" frames are in the original (and mp4/h.264/etc are prone to bad frames at the very beginning and very end depending on how they were prep'd for delivery).
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If you have Final Cut Pro X, you'd be better off editing video in that app. You should be designing your Motion "add-ons" as effects, titles, transitions or generators for use in FCPX and leaving the video completely out of Motion. FCPX also takes care of transcoding to prores for you (opt to Transcode Optimized Media when importing.)
PS - you'll get better performance out of Motion if you use ProRes video. (Same goes for AIFF/WAV audio and NOT mp3.)
Hope this helps... otherwise I don't know what the problem would be.

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Sort of – by exporting and reimporting as clips. There is no round-tripping. For example, you can't send a clip as a Motion project to Motion4, save and have the clip update in FCP. You'd have to export a clip (or sequence) as a self-contained movie and bring it into Motion (or Compressor), make your changes, exporty and reimport as a clip, see how you liked the result, etc. Much easiier to stay within FCS.
Russ

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Hi - reaching critical point on a project and typicall the problkems are kicking in. I can't seem to export from Motion having had no problems up to this point. I'm working in Motion 3.0.2 on Leopard with a title sequence that uses PSD files.
When I tyr to export, it barelt dos the first frame, stops exporting and produces a blank 8kb quicktime, regardless of codec / export setting.
I went through compressor as a last measure and this seemed to work ok, but is certainly not my first choice as I would like to keep the Motion blur setting which as far as I am aware is only available when exporting directly from Motion. That, and it SHOULD all work fine!
Any ideas out there??
Many thanks,
Dave

hi,
I have a few issues with exporting from motion as well. The thing that always seems to work for me is to import the motion file into fcp and export from there. Not aware if the blur is retained or not. Pretty stoopid if not.
hth
adam

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I've been having problems exporting my Motion Projects out of Motion. I've been working on a 30sec spot 100% animated (no 3D), the project is set for DVDCPRO HD 1080i60 and I just cant get it out properly.
Fades that worked in the project are missing in the exported file, pictures somehow become corrupted/distorted in the exported file, and I have also noticed the top bar in leopard often turns partially or completely black after export, and motion crashes soon afterwards.
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It takes about an hour and a half to export the 30 sec spot under maximum settings, (motion blur, frame blending, and all that) and I have an ATI RadeonX1900 with 512 VRAM.
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Hope you get some better advice soon. Meantime, try to copy and then paste some layers into independent projects, render them out as self-contained movies. See what happens to them. What you want to try to do is separate out pieces you can pre-render and then bring back in as movies. This eliminates tons of layers processing and might clear up some issues. Also helps you isolate issues with possibly corrupt media.
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bogiesan

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When I export a particular FCP sequence to Compressor (with the intention of then moving on to DVD Studio Pro with the resultant compressed video and audio file)on first gesture to export I receive a message saying one render file is missing. However, when I was in FCP before launching Compressor, the sequence showed nothing that needed rendering. When I "render both" from the sequence menu, there is nothing to render. When I watch the sequence in FCP it views perfectly. Then I export using compressor. I receive the message that a render file is missing. I tell the system to continue without this one render file since I have no evidence that the file is missing. I then set off the compressor work, and it grinds away. Ultimately sometime in the two plus hour processing period (the sequence is 8 minutes long) FCP generates an error and Compressor aborts its work, blaming FCP. Any idea what the problem is and how to fix it? Please let me know if you need further info. As always, I am up against a deadline with this final output. The behavior is one I have never seen before in the four years I have been using this software. Thanks in advance.

Do you have motion files on the time line - a Google search shows posts about this problem:
http://forums.creativecow.net/readpost/8/1013775
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=1460437
I would export a Quicktime Movie from your timeline File > Export > Quicktime Movie using current settings, then take that exported Quicktime Movie into compressor as opposed to trying to go direct from the FCP timeline.
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!http://www.spotsbeforeyoureyes.com/RenderMarksChecked.jpg!
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