Exporting DV AVI Type 2

So here is the quick rundown...
I work at a small community cable television station. The system we use to cable-cast is windows based and plays Microsoft DV AVI files. The systems we edit with are G5's running the latest Final Cut Studio. After going back and forth with technical support of the manufactures of the cable-cast system we have decided that the problem lies with the fact I am exporting Type 1 AVI's which they tell me have a file size limit of 4GB, well under what a normal half hour show comes out to.
Is there anyway to get Final Cut to export Type 2 AVI's ? If not is there third party plug-ins or software that is priced reasonably?
Thanks for the help.
Ray

Is here anyway to get Final Cut to export Type 2 AVI's ? If not is there third party plug-ins or software that is priced reasonably?
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Ah, terribly sorry. I misread. Looked like you were supplying programming to a network. But you're actually working in a shop that uses a production format that is completely incompatible with the 'cast output. Interesting engineering decision.
You can always try google, amazing stuff:
http://www.puremotion.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=14219&sid=7f9a9c6ba0e83f399c3092 5b615ac09c
http://www.microsoft.com/whdc/archive/dvavi.mspx
http://users.tpg.com.au/mtam/guide_wmm2.htm
http://shortfilm.videohelp.com/2005/09/how-to-convert-dv-avi-type-1-into-xvid.ht ml
http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms787833.aspx
http://dvcreators.net/discuss/showthread.php?t=9986
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DV
The upshot appears to be you need something that is not available on the Macintosh. I see no references to any tools that are OS10 compatible. But try macupdate and versiontracker.
good luck on this one. Try hitting the Windows-centric support forums for WMV encoders.
bogiesan

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