Exporting format for best quality/file size

Hi,
Help!!
Nubie to after effects, pretty much got my head round most of the basics except exporting/rendering my projects.
I can export to Encore and get great results as a dvd...problems i have are as follows.
If I wish to create a presentation for a plama screen running on a laptop what might be the best format to render. For example I have tried .AVI but the file sizes are huge..gigs n gigs worth!!
I have a 720 x 576 project I would currently like to export but do not know how to get the right balance of quality and file size.
Are there any presets anyone knows of?
Thanks!
Regards
Ian

Well, if you are referring to plain desktop playback from a Windows-based laptop, nothing beats WMV. It will play smoothly and if you ramp up the data rates to somewhere between 2 and 3 Mbit/sec, you see almost no adisturbances at this resolution. You will need to work in square pixels, though, or it may look crooked, so nest all your work in a respective comp for final render.
Mylenium

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t_hall10 wrote:
The information provided was helpful, but did not completely answer my question...
Are there specific settings with-in Aperture I can set for exporting so that clients have the ability to print as wanted and post on the web as wanted whithout losing any major amount of photo quality?
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Should I be gving 2 folders of pictures, one for web use and one for printing use? If I were to do that, what should the exporting setting be set for both folders?
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