Exporting from PP CS3 to Encore CS3 defaults to PAL project settings!

I am trying to export about an hour of edited HDV video to Encore, and no matter what I try, the project settings after exporting into Encore is set to PAL and not NTSC. Encore does not allow me to change the settings back to NTSC. I have set all the export settings in Premiere to confirm NTSC is set in the encoding settings. I have tried to change all the default preferences in Encore to NTSC, but still when I export from Premiere, the project settings turns up as PAL. The work around is to export the movie seperately, then import it in Encore with new project settings set to NTSC, but I lose all my chapter information. Anybody else run into this?

Authoring Mode really only governs the size of the Preview window. When you export to BD, DVD, or Flash, Encore will transcode any media that is not legal for the export format.
So in your case, if you burn to Blu-ray, Encore will not transcode your video (if it is an elementary stream); if you burned to DVD, Encore would transcode your video to SD widescreen (720x480/576 NTSC/PAL).

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Exporting from Premiere CS3 to Encore CS3

Hi all, I wonder if anybody has the answer for this. I have been really excited about the new feature that lets us export from a Premier timeline and open straight into an Encore project.
But what I want to know is, is it possible to perform this type of export for multiple sequences or timelines so they all open in the same encore project?
What I am doing at the moment requires 2 films on one authored disc. I am currently exporting straight to Encore which creates a new project each time, closing the unused projects tghen importing the exported video into my main Encore project manually.

More of a Premiere question, but no, it's not possible to do this with multiple sequences.
Instead, let Premiere create the Encore project for you from one sequence, then export your extra sequences to AVI or MPEG-2/H.264 from Premiere and import them as assets into Encore, where you can then add them to timelines and link to them.

Export from Captivate 3 to Flash CS3

I followed directions located in Adobe Captivate 3's help
menu about exporting to Flash CS3. I have tried both exporting from
Captivate and Importing from Flash to move my captivate project
into flash. About 5 times, an error saying "Unknown error" had
occurred popped up. I closed Flash and Captivate a couple times and
then it worked. Several new errors popped up during the
"successful" import---worse yet, the captivate project imported
terribly! Pieces of the demonstration were all over the stage.
Long story short, something is wrong. Is this a Vista thing?
Does anyone know about any of this?

>I followed directions located in Adobe Captivate 3's help
menu about
>exporting
> to Flash CS3. I have tried both exporting from Captivate
and Importing
> from
> Flash to move my captivate project into flash. About 5
times, an error
> saying
> "Unknown error" had occurred popped up. I closed Flash
and Captivate a
> couple
> times and then it worked. Several new errors popped up
during the
> "successful" import---worse yet, the captivate project
imported terribly!
> Pieces of the demonstration were all over the stage.
>
> Long story short, something is wrong. Is this a Vista
thing? Does anyone
> know about any of this?
>
Doesn't seem to be specific to Vista.
I've had similar issues trying to export to Flash. But
sometimes it seems to
work beautifully (although always with an error message about
"unable to
find Flash.exe" or similar), aside from in issue with the
backgrounds all
importing to Flash at the wrong size. This is easily worked
around, and has
been discussed here a number of times.
My first suggestion to you is to try rebooting your machine
before trying to
export again.
Steve
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If I export and specify no menues and specify burn, medium quality to DVD, Encore asks me to insert blank media into a CD R/W drive. I have to cancel the operation and select the DVD R/W drive that is also displayed in the device delection.. How do I make it default to the DVD R/W drive when asking for blank media?

Starting with a search is always a good idea... here is some previous discussion
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Can't exort from Premiere pro to Encore CS3 with Dynamic Link

Hi,
I have finnished a projekt in Premiere Pro CS3 and when I want to export it to Encore with danamic link I don't have this option in the menu. I only have the option to use dynamic link to After effect.
I have Production Premiem and use Vista 32 bit.
I'm thankfull for any help
/Chris

No I have the same option as i Premiere, to import from After effects.
I have searched several forums and never heard anyone having this problem.
Chris

Which codex to export from FCpro 7 to Premiere cs3?

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That really depends on what resolution you are working with. Are you in HD or is SD? Why even bother moving down to Premiere when you have FCP?

Encore CS3 crashes when changing disk drives

Burning a compilation from Premiere CS3 to Encore CS3 using Export to Encore. When Premiere finishes encoding and launches Encore to create DVD image, Encore keeps defaulting to my CD-R drive and not my DVD-R drive.
Each time I have to cancel the operation, and then manually change the dropdown recorder selector from the CD to the DVD drive. And EVERY TIME I do this Encore crashes.
Since there doesn't seem to be a way to force Encore to remember which drive I want to use for recording as a default, this software is totally useless to me.
Does anyone know of a way to make Encore remember a specific disc drive to use for recording?

You could try setting the DVD-R drive as Master, not the CD-R.
The bad news is that this means opening up the computer & either resetting the drive jumpers from CS (Cable Select) to Master & Slave, or if they are already set to Master & Slave, then they need reversing.
This cannot be done in software as it is a matter of their physical position on the cable.
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i before
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So I'm finally done with my DVD. Now i want this burned to a dvd or make an image file. Each time i hit BUILD or START (Check proj) the program quits and I'm left with the normal OS X message: The application Adobe Encore quit unexpectedly >> Ignore - Report... - Relaunch
My DVD is not that fancy but i got a menu with 3 buttons made in PS with a pointer highlight and a animating background made in After Effects (using dynamic link) with some music. All of the buttons link to After effects comps with dynamic link. All of the after effects compositions are transcoded and works within the DVD preview (except the DVD menu background wont play, and i got a feeling it will play when i export an image or DVD). And all the After Effects comps links back 2 the menu when done. So there should be no error in the project flowchart.
My flowchart: http://www3.sqr.no/index.php/get/64a267e640fddd15128d082abb72e3d92a3aedf680aabe20995beb7e e10ae32f
(small jpg file)
So i hit build and Encore quits, shut down, finada (Every time!). No matter what out put settings i use. I've exported DVD's from encore before on this computer without problems.
---I got this error report---
Process: Adobe Encore [11321]
Path: /Applications/Adobe Encore CS3/Adobe Encore CS3.app/Contents/MacOS/Adobe Encore
Identifier: com.adobe.Encore
Version: ??? (3.0.2)
Code Type: X86 (Native)
Parent Process: launchd [188]
Date/Time: 2008-08-05 18:36:00.739 +0100
OS Version: Mac OS X 10.5.4 (9E17)
Report Version: 6
Exception Type: EXC_BAD_ACCESS (SIGBUS)
Exception Codes: KERN_PROTECTION_FAILURE at 0x0000000000000000
Crashed Thread: 0
Here is the rest of the error report: (rtf document)
http://www3.sqr.no/index.php/get/a4568b7ade16f18d2acf09891b81b0bc7c0e4936287eebf2a509470d4 c7098fb
Don't know if this any help but hope anybody got some ideas. I've been trying to look for a solution on the forums, but without any luck.
By the way, I'm using a Mac Pro v3,1 (early 2008) with 2 x 2,8ghz quads, 10GB memory, NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GT (512mb) and plenty of disk space.

Hey, i think if there could be any of the possibilities you talk about, it might have been a naming error. All files i created had the same name in the new project as in the old one. But i used 1 asset arrow that i copy pasted from a library button "Red facets button" and shift pasted on my own buttons as highlight (paste sub picture). In the first project i did not do this as a straight forward thing, a lot of deleting and adding because i had never done it before and there might have happened something with the naming of the arrow i pasted. I used the same arrow in the second project but without messing with delete, paste all the time. But some how there is no problems now, just something wrong with the last project file =S
Not so important:
I also noticed while building the new project i once got an "General error", not sure why but happened after a random crash. And 2 get rid of it i had to delete the menu and make it again (i could not edit anything in the menu without getting the error). I rebuild the menu and had another crash when exiting the program, because i thought my computer needs to boot after 2 days online. When i reopened the project i got "General error" in the menu again, but after some clicking it didn't show up (random). Finally i got my project setup and everything works, i did the copy past as sub picture as a straight forward thing.

Internal Software error PGC for encore CS3 !!! solved !!!

Almost everybody here knows the next error:
PGC "timeline name" has an error at xx:xx:xx:xy internal software error : %0, line timeline name - PGCINFO: name= timeline name, ref=BPGC, time=xx:xx:xx:xy
Where the y in time stands for the length of the timeline minus 2 frames. The BPGC error can also be FPGC or DPGC dependant on how many menu's there are in the project.
It kept me awake for weeks and after reading this forum several times and comparing encore CS3 with encore 2.0 filenames I found the solution.
This Error is a bug in encore witch has nothing to do with blank filename spots and sonic coding or codecs or planning your workflow with a pencil but pure with the combination Adobe Premiere Pro CS3 and Encore CS3.
This is what generates the problem:
In Adobe Premiere Pro CS3 you build project with video, sound and chapters. Then you export the project via the Media Encoder not Multplexed.
Premiere CS3 then creates the following files:
filename.M2V (video file mpg)
filename.AC3 (audio file ac3)
filename.M2V.XMPSES (an adobe file with preview info and chapter pointers)
filname.XMP (??)
It is the .M2V.XMPSES file witch creates the PGC error. If you use the MULTIPLEX DVD option then ADOBE will not create the .M2V.XMPSES file so there will not be an error. This trick mentioned by ADOBE and many others is just to go around the bug instead of solving it. Also with multiplex you have just one sound track. I use two sound tracks like 5.1 and a 2.0 track witch you can choose in a menu.
Some people say it is the blank spots. Also not true. They have probably just erased the blank spots of the M2V file and forgot the .M2V.XMPSES file.
When you just delete the .M2V.XMPSES file and then open the M2V and AC3 file in Encore as a new asset, make a timeline and menu's and the project will built and burn. Only if you delete this .M2V.XMPSES file Encore takes a longer time to import the M2V file and will be without the chapter points.
Almost everything else will work like menu with sound and even a movie background (use M2V files). Only the motion buttons in a menu still wont work unless you use a black background !?!. Haven't figured this out yet. Only solution for this is use Encore 2.0. In this older version also the motion buttons will work without error's (everything else also so why buy CS3??)
Here is what you must do create a DVD without errors:
-Create a project in Premiere Pro, even with chapters.
-Write down all chapter points (minutes:seconds:frames)
-Create two new unique maps in explorer for example D:DVD1 and D:DVD2
-Export in Premiere with Media Encoder without the Multiplex:DVD but with NON to the D:DVD1 map
-Copy from D:DVD1 only the M2V and AC3 files to D:DVD2
-Start up Encore DVD CS3 or 2.0
-Create a new unique project in Encore for example "DVD" and save this in the map D:DVD2\
-Then use Save-as (under file) and pinpoint to D:DVD2\dvd to be sure that all Encore's files are placed in this folder.
-Select M2V file and make new timeline.
-Make chapter points (you wrote down the points, did you?)
-Create menu's, even with sound (AC3) and movie background (M2V)
-Then render project if you have used a video for menu background
-Finally Built and burnnnnnn!!
-If you like to use motion buttons in a menu then use Encore 2.0
I have double checked my work flow and it really works. I have built a project and burned with success Then I deleted the timeline and the M2V file. Copied the .M2V.XMPSES file in the used folder. Re loaded the M2V file in encore (this time much faster! and with chapter points). Tried to built and burn and back was the error. Also this happened in in Encore 2.0!!
Hope that this will solve the PGC error once and for all !!!
Marcel W
system:
acer aspire AMD 64 3800+
2 GB
250 GB hard drive for system
750 GB hard drive for movie
software Adobe Encore 3.0.1.008, Premiere PRO 3.2.0, Photoshop CS3 10.0, All upgraded
NERO 7
No Internet

> Where the y in time stands for the length of the timeline minus 2 frames.
This can actually vary, and so far at least, I don't think we've seen a pattern as to type of pgc error based on how many frames from the end it reports.
> The BPGC error can also be FPGC or DPGC dependant on how many menu's there are in the project.
Number of menus is not relevant; the iteration of the first letter is more related to subsequent occurrences of the error. In my current tests it did not always update; they may have been too similar.
> This is what generates the problem...
Well, the problem does not occur every time you do what you describe, any more than it occurs every time spaces are left in the file names. What you have is, as some other suggestions, a workaround. Thats not bad, and I wonder if you are onto something as to what is contributing to the problem.
So, on to the interesting part whether the xmpses file, or at least what Encore is doing with it, is contributing something. I took an old test project that throws the PGC error and did some experiments.
Background. I am a user who does get the pgc errors regularly, but not always. Creative Suite Production Premium, with PPro CS3 3.2.0 (374) and Encore 3.0.1.008. Pentium 4 2.8GHz 2G RAM, XP SP3, Multiple drives, Nvidia GEforce4 MX440 i.e. an older system. I have lots of stuff loaded and running, including virus protection and firewall, so there are any number of potential conflicts. But I get no crashes, and only one problem other than the pgc. (PPro and Encore monitor windows do this diagonal thing I suspect the display card, but the drivers are up to date. Maxing and then back to fit fixes it.)
If you want to attempt to replicate my studies, here is a link to my problem clip and the first Encore project I describe.
http://www.videoandcomputer.com/test/pgc_test.htm
This project involves a very short AVI export from PPro CS3 - just over 8 seconds - called pgcbad_clip1.avi. Just to answer any question, the source is dv camera capture, and the source and avi export I use are dv avi type 2. There were no effects added on the timeline.
Test 1: Create a project in Encore CS3. Use the sunset menu and delete all the buttons except "play all." Import the avi as a timeline. Set the timeline end action as "return to last menu" and set the button link to the timeline. Auto transcode. (Project settings are 8mbps max and a3c.) Check project shows okay; there is never a problem with that. Build to a DVD folder in a new folder. This project throws the pgc error.
Test 2: Now create a new Encore project in a new folder. Use the same process, except import as timeline the m2v and a3c files from the first run. (I.e. if the clip is pgcbad_clip1.avi, in the test1 project folders, there is a folder called pgcbad_clip1.avi that has 6 files.) Note that in the folder they are imported from is an xmpses file from the first project's encore transcode. The build again fails with the pgc error - same frame, etc, but I really think the frame number doesn't matter.
Test 3: Now create another new Encore project in a new folder. Use same process, but before importing the m2v and a3c as timeline, delete the xmpses file. Drumroll...... Build succeeds!
Go figure.
This is not the repeatable bug option weve been looking for, but based on a clip that always fails, it does demonstrate the odd event of deleting the xmpses file as a workaround. I wonder if that will give adobe something to work with.
Can anyone else get my clip to work/not work in a straight project?
Test 4: Just to answer the question since the avi file fails here, will the elemental option succeed? I exported elemental m2v and wav from PPro, used the same project process, and transcoded the wav. That build also works! I have seen this work both ways. I have had projects where the elemental failed, and an avi export worked. I do believe the elemental options work more consistently. But my project that I completed yesterday used all avi exports, animated buttons in the submenu, - no pgc error.

Encore CS3 install failure

Windows XP Pro
Adobe Premiere Pro CS3 full version
Because of several problems and conflicts in trying to "export to encore" from Premiere Pro CS3 (mainly, Encore was asking me to put a blank disk in the wrong disk drive [my cd-rw drive instead of my dvd drive]once the encoding was done and burning was about to begin, I decided to uninstall both Premiere Pro CS3 and Encore CS3 from "Add/Remove Programs" from "Control Panel" in preparation for reinstalling both. However, when I clicked on "unistall" for any CS3 application, nothing at all would happen. In frustration I simply started deleting all the program files I could find relating to CS3. I was finally successful in uninstalling both after inserting the respective disks, but a program called "encore stock photos cs3" still wouldn't uninstall so I followed some online advice and started deleting all Adobe cs3 related "uninstall" keys from my registry.
I was able to successfully, re-install premiere pro cs3, but components of the encore cs3 reinstall failed with the following messages:
Summary
Succesfully installed: 1 component
Shared Components
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X Adobe encore CS3
Component install failed
X Adobe encore CS3 Codecs
Component install failed
X Adobe encore CS3 Library
Component install failed
X Shared Components
Component install failed
Component install failed. The original installation media has been moved or deleted.
Please replace the media at its original location: [the path . . . Local Settings/Application Data/Installer 3472
payloads\AdobeExtendScriptToolkit2.0.2All\AdobeExtendScriptToolkit2.0.2All.msi
End error message
Two questions I hope someone can answer. 1. How do I replace these two items. 2. Why were they still on my machine in the first place since I deliberately tried to erase all traces of CS3 from my system before reinstalling? Isn't their continued presence considered invasive?
Thanks in advance,
T

>2. Why were they still on my machine in the first place since I
>deliberately tried to erase all traces of CS3 from my system before
>reinstalling?
You did not use the CS3 clean scripts. That would have been all that is required. Unfortunately now you will have to run the install again after you've wiped everything "the correct way". In clearer terms: deleting does not remove installer and other registry info or the cached installer packages, hence it causes problems. Only the script will allow you to correctly remove CS3 applications at the cost of wiping them all, of course.
Mylenium

Exported from Premiere as NTSC, but Encore thinks it's PAL - Help!

Encore 3.0.0.268
Source video: AVI, 29.97 fps, 720x480, 32kHz 16-bit stereo
Exported from Premiere Pro to Encore with the following settings:
NTSC, 720x480, 29.97 drop frame [fps], Lower, Quality 4.5
48 kHz, 16 bit, PCM
VBR, 1 Pass, Min 2.02, Target 4.78, Max 7.00 [Mbps]
But!... when I open the project in Encore, it only lists PAL options. For example, if I try adding a menu, it adds the PAL version instead of the NTSC version (which does exist in the Library folder). If I remove all the PAL menu files from the Library folder, then it doesn't list any menus at all for this project (except a couple HD ones) - ie, it's ignoring the NTSC menus.
Also, if I look at the Transcode Settings, the only choices are PAL.
NOTE: I already have NTSC set as the Default Television Standard in Encore General Preferences.
Why does Encore think the video is PAL? How can I make it think otherwise without redoing the whole export in Premiere?

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Problems reinstalling Premiere and Encore CS3

Using Vista 64,I had the problem of losing my 3 optical drives (2 DVD and 1 Blu-Ray) two days ago.(The problem with the drivers not being available).Despite trying the regedit fix (upper and lower filter removal),they still did not work and I could not use the repair option on the installer DVD for obvious reasons.So a fresh install was carried out,everything I had on the computer before the re-install has loaded and is working fine,except Premiere Pro CS3 and Encore CS3.I can load the third party content on the Premiere disc and the codecs and the library on the Encore disc but NOT the main programmes.Anybody know of a workaround?.
The Vista 64 is an upgrade from XP professional and the Premiere CS3 an upgrade from Premiere 6.5.Both applications worked fine until my optical drive problem.Any help or advice appreciated.
Mike Webb

Sounds like a problematic video driver or codec issue. You need to update all your drivers and try again. Also get rid of any unnecessary codecs. Try opening files in various formats and see if the same happens. Also you should search the KnowledgeBase, it contains a lot of information about this kind of problem.
If all fails, call Adobe Tech Support...

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Premiere Pro CS5.5 with 5.5.2 update just downlaoded today
Windows 7 64 bit
Source AVCHD 1080p 25 Anamorphic
Error: ..\..\src\AMEPresetProber.cpp-265
I wasa exporting from Premiere Pro to Encore
This HAS worked before
No other software running
No other codecs loaded, that I know of
AMD Phenom IIx4 955 processor
No Mercury...Acceleration

Hi Devongeoff.
Thanks for your post. This error will not come if you try to change the user account or create a new user account. Once the Project is finished, uninstall all the adobe application and use cleaner tool and re-install them once again.
Regards,
Vinay

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My film seems to lose quality (looks like it is dropping frames, picture seems to pixelate slightly in places) after I have exported from prem pro. I have tried messing with the settings but it still seems to lose a signifcant amount of quality.
I want to export to AVI.
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OK... here are specific questions... answer them all and someone will be able to help
Read Bill Hunt on a file type as WRAPPER http://forums.adobe.com/thread/440037
What is a CODEC... a Primer http://forums.adobe.com/thread/546811
What CODEC is INSIDE that file? http://forums.adobe.com/thread/440037
Report back with the codec details of your file, use the programs below... a screen shot works well to SHOW people what you are doing
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For Mac http://mediainfo.massanti.com/
http://blogs.adobe.com/premiereprotraining/2011/02/red-yellow-and-green-render-bars.html
Once you know exactly what it is you are editing, report back with that information... and your project setting, and if there is a red line above the video in the timeline, which indicates a mismatch between video and project
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Brand/Model Computer (or Brand/Model Motherboard if self-built)
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Operating System version, such as Win7 64bit Pro... or whatevevr
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Your Firewall settings and brand of anti-virus are you running
Brand/Model graphics card, sush as ATI "xxxx" or nVidia "xxxx"
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Brand/Model sound card, or sound "chip" name on Motherboard
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Plus Video-Specific Information http://forums.adobe.com/thread/459220
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Edit Vob http://premierepro.wikia.com/wiki/FAQ:How_do_I_import_VOB_files_/_edit_a_DVD%3F
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Exporting from PP CS3 to Encore CS3 defaults to PAL project settings!

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