Exporting hdv to dvd

I have completed a project in HD, and exported a quicktime movie and burned using toast. Everything is fine except motion- it blurs quite badly with broad lines appearing through the moving subject. Having read some of the other posts about exporting HD I think this may be a problem with interlacing? I have exported HD to tape and that looks great played through a TV. Is there anything I can do about this?
The other option I have is to down convert the HD tape in my camera to SD and recapture it, and then export as an SD project. I'm gonna lose quality though...

Hi and thankyou Michel and allcanlondon.
In the end I used my camera to downconvert the hd to sd and recaptured it. I then burned it using toast, and the result is great. I am very happy with it- for the average consumer with an SD TV the result is fine. This has worked much better than exporting the hd project (quicktime movie) and then burning it using either toast or iDVD (although Toast was better). It was also fairly quick compared with using iDVD to encode the HD project, which took forever last time I tried.
I am very happy! this is the final chapter in a long running drama of how to work effectively with HD, given the lack of HD support at the moment. This method also has two other advantages: firstly, my client gets the HD version of her wedding on DV tape and could easily get it converted to hd dvd etc when this becomes available. I am confident now to offer this to future clients. Secondly, when I recaptured the whole thing in sd i was able to make some colour corrections to the entire project, as it was in my sequence as a single clip! Lot easier than tweaking each individual clip in the hd project.
Thanks guys.

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