Express card firewire 800

I need an extra firewire door on my MBP, I v the first 15" only with one firewire 400. Can any one advice on which model is working fine?
Tanx a lot

Well. The bottleneck can be anything. It may be your external HDD. Firewire 800 just means that the maximum rate of transfer would be 800Mbps. The MBP has the PCI express 1x speed. That can support upto 2000 Mbps. So the expresscard wouldn't be a problem.
Sridhar.
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Express 34 Firewire 800

Is one available yet? If so where?

You shouldn't believe everything you hear!
Here's a link to the FAQ on the ExpressCard Site:
http://www.expresscard.org/web/site/qa.jsp#14
And here's a quote:
Speed. ExpressCard modules use serial (PCI Express and USB 2.0) data interfaces rather than the ISA (16-bit PC Card) or PCI (CardBus) parallel bus interfaces, improving bus speed in data transfer while reducing the number of signals needed in the interface (2.5 Gb/s [PCI Express] or 480 Mb/s [USB 2.0] for the ExpressCard interface vs. 132 MB/s maximum theoretical throughput for the CardBus interface.)
2.5 Gb/s will have no issues running Firewire 800. Personally, when I next buy an external drive, it'll be an eSATA.

Belkin firewire express card help

I need installing the belkin usb/firewire express card. Everytime I plug it in, the mbp tries to install it, then it locks up my entire computer.
I'm trying to import video from a camcorder that uses a firewiere 400 cable. I thought I could use this express card to import the video via firewire 400 but it doesn't look like it's working.
any thoughts?
thanks.

Can't help you with a card, but have you tried Firewire 9 to 4 pin cable (or converter)?
Here is one:
http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?cid=103&cp_id=10301&cs_id=1030104&pid=328&seq=1&format=2
You shouldn't need the express card - FW 800 is backwards compatible with FW 400 and should work as long as you have the physical connections correct. I say should because some folks have had problems with FW 400 devices on FW 800, so it's not necessarily a sure thing...

Sony DCR-HC62 camcorder won't connect to iMovie with express card adapter

I got a Sony HC62 Mini DV video camera but it will not connect to iMovie. Since I don't have a firewire 6 pin on my Mac (only a 9 pin) i got an express card adapter. So I am using 4 pin (camera) to 6 pin (Express card) firewire. I have no other devices to test the express card but i tested the firewire and the video camera that I got and it works fine with a Windows XP computer. I have also talked with sony and I ended up with either there is something wrong with the express card or the iMovie software.

Well there is nothing there because the express card is listed under a PCI card. The express card is recognized when inserted but that is it will not notice the camera attached to the express card. since i couldn't test the card i went and got the card replaced, but still with no luck.
Would returning the express card and buying a firewire 4 pin to 9 pin be worth it? (given that i can get one since i can only find one company that makes them and they are a wholesales only) This way i can connect it directly to my mac's firewire 9 pin port.

NitroAV FireWire 800/1394b Express Card (34)

After some foot dragging by FireWire direct, today I finally received the NitroAV FireWire 800/1394b Express Card ordered almost a month ago.
First Impressions: Unimpressive at best.
According to the FireWire direct rep, it is supposed to work using the Mac OS built in drivers and require no additional driver....
Upon first insertion, my MacBook Pro promptly went into a kernel panic.
NOT a good introductory performance!
Upon restart, I did get the thing to work, "sort of".
First, it requires AC power even with a 2.5" external drive meant for bus power. Bummer, but so be it. However, less acceptable: it is VERY fussy about sequence, reminding me of evil SCSI voodoo rituals from the past century. Seems it only likes to work once- if I remove the card, it requires a reboot to recognize anything attached to it subsequently.
Functionality is intermittent. Sometimes I can mount and unmount a drive several times in a row, sometimes just once before it fails to recognize the drive and requires another reboot. One drive it took a long time to recognize but eventually it did- only to freeze up rock solid soon thereafter requiring an uncomfortable long push on the power button to shut down- nothing else worked. That drive was a known to be working Lacie, the first a known to be working WiebeTech and both are totally reliable on my G5 and previously completely reliable on the MacBook Pro using the integrated FireWire 400 port.
Unscientific results so far show a modest speed increase transferring a few large files, nothing like double the FireWire 800 speed hoped for. In any case if it ain't reliable it ain't gettin' used. Hoping for a driver solution in 10.4.7? (Wishful thinking)
No one likes a fussy device, much less one doomed to corrupting directories with that kind of behavior. I'm disappointed with Apple for omitting the FireWire 800 port on the 15 inch model and leaving us with this cheesy "solution".
I am not a big fan of dongles, or things like Express cards which are just asking for trouble by introducing intermediary third party connectivity issues exactly like these...
Oh yeh, and the little metal door on the Express Card slot tends to hang open and not snap closed- just to add insult to the whole process.

Well, after two days of use I have a bit of data regarding the NitroAV (and Apple's implementation of ExpressCard/34).
First some general observations: like bigwheel, there are a few too many rough edges to be fully pleased. After inserting the card, a menu bar icon appears next to the Airport icon. On mouse over, the drop down shows "Unknown Vendor" and "Firewire Controller" are greyed out, while the 3rd "Power off Card" is selectable but does NOT power down the card. Looks like I have to shut down the MBP, then eject the Nitro card.
I also can confirm intermittent unmounting and remounting. My latest experiment is to leave the drive mounted and then have it wake up after sleep. So far it's worked once, but will post if it continues to find my FW 800 drive over time.
One major design flaw of the ExpressCard implementation - to engage the card you push in until it clicks, while to disengage the card you merely push in a second time. But how are you supposed to ATTACH FW800 cables?? I find I have to try to hold the ExpressCard firmly so it doesn't go in while fumbling with the FW800 connector. WAY too fussy...
OK, here's some actual test data, involving transfers of 1,000 MB of files (147 Canon RAW files, approx 7 MB each).
I used three hard drives for various transfers -
1. Internal stock 100 GB - 5400 rpm (TOSHIBA MK1032GSX)
2. FW 800 / 400 500 GB - 7200 rpm (Seagate 3500841A in OWC Mercury Elite case)
3. FW 800 / 400 250 GB - La Cie 7200 rpm drive
All test are transfer of 1 GB of files from HD to HD-
Test 1: Internal to FW 400 - 68 seconds
Test 2: Internal to FW 800 - 65 seconds
Test 3: MBP built in FW 400 daisy-chained - 54 seconds
Test 4: Nitro FW 800 daisy chained - 43 seconds
Test 5: Nitro FW 800 port A to Nitro FW 800 port B - 43 seconds
Test 6: MBP built in FW 400 to Nitro FW 800 - 35 seconds
So it looks like there is some speed increase, but I was surprised that mixing the FW 400 and FW 800 ports gave the fastest transfer speeds! The Nitro card is dependent on Apple's implementation of buses, and this seems to be the winning combo. Not that intuitive that shifting one of the FW 800 devices down to FW 400 will speed things up, but that's what my simple test seemed to imply.
I didn't test read times only, but it would seem that these should speed up (and hopefully speed up my primary application of Aperture).
MBP 2.0, 2GB Mac OS X (10.4.6)

Hi. I have a Macbook Pro Model 5,5 with one 800 firewire port. I need to create two firewire 800 ports but only have an SD card slot (this is for video interface with 2 cameras). Is this possible or do I have to have an express card slot in order to do

Hi. I have a Macbook Pro Model 5,5 with one 800 firewire port. I need to create two firewire 800 ports but only have an SD card slot (this is for video interface with 2 cameras). Is this possible or do I have to have an express card slot in order to do this?

Hi Jessica,
No, the SD slot will not work, you need an ExpressCard/34 slot.
I do not know if it works with cameras, but with two or more HDs, if the first one has two FW ports, you can "daisy chain" one or more additional HDs from it.

Employee at the Genuis Bar told me to get pci-express firewire 800 card

told me any card would work in my new.......well it WAS new till they announced upgrade, 2x3ghz quadcore xeon.
I want to add another firewire 800 bus since I have the AJAHD hooked to the existing bus.
So I went to Fry's and got the "PCI-express firewire 800/1394b controller card 3 ports".
put it into one of the empty slots, rebooted, and got nothing, just some dull chimes, that don't stop.
it fit within my macpro, but it was a lot shorter than the SATA card, that had no problems.
So I guess I need to know exactly what type of firewire 800 card to I have to get.

I installed 1 of these in an 8 core OS 10.4.11 FCp 6.0.2 QT 7.3.1 dedicated to io HD
don't recall a driver disk for mac, however I rarely if ever use the supplied driver disk for anything anymore 'cause it's almost always out of date. go to mfg site and get drivers etc.
this is the first link I saw googling siig
http://www.smalldog.com/product/42566/atfgc
by the way it worked great. needs a 1 lane slot. you'll need to check expansion slot utility. typically goes in slot above gfx card or slot4 (top) slot

Firewire 400 and 800 PCI Express Card Question

I just put in a Firewire 800 PCI Express card in my Mac Pro. If I add a Firewire 400 PCI Express card also to my Mac Pro will the 800 card work as in 400 speed due to the PCI Express 400 card being added to the Logic board?
Thanks!!
Sky..,

Each card operates independently.

Adding Firewire 800 PCI Express Card to G5

I wanted to add a Siig Firewire 800 3-Port PCI-express card to my G5. One of the requirements was connecting a 4 pin power y cord to an available 4 pin power connector for reliable power output. I can't locate an available 4 pin power connector in my G5. Is there one available? Where is it? Which slot is best for the installation?

#1 zapping PRAM/NVRAM has to be from a cold start, and done thru 2 reboots (don't need to go crAZy with 3-5).
#2 Open Firmware is thorough, efficient, and can be done on any type of startup.
#3 "reset-nvram" - as I mentioned above, should be first step in hardware troubleshooting or anytime after changing hardware and getting a kernel panic on first restart.
(whoops)

Firewire 800 PCI-E Card not detected

Hi Everyone,
I just add a new pci-e card to my G5 and...it's not detected! it's a Pci Express card with 2 firewire 800 and 1 firewire 400 from Apiotek (mac OSX ok) with a T.I Chipset.
I did a reset-nvram and a reset-all from Open Firmware but nothing seems to work.
any suggestion?
I add a 4 USB card Pci-Express (Sonnet) and dat card works so I assume that I need o activate something in order to make my Firewire card detected by the G5.
I really need your help.
regards

Hi,
It's a PPC G5 Quad (4x2,5Ghz) with 7Gig of Ram.
Yes i try to plug un external device (external hard disc, audio card (rme fireface 800))
in fact When I go to the system info this is what I got for this card: pci-bridge :
Type : pci
Bus : PCI
Logement : SLOT-2
Identifiant du fournisseur : 0x104c
Identifiant du périphérique : 0x8231
Identifiant de révision : 0x0003
but no more.
so I assume that the card is well plug but I need something else to make it work?
just let me know,
regards

Can I connect an eSATA card or FireWire 800 to my 2008 MacBook?

I have a late 2008 12" MacBook with a FireWire 400 slot (only). I am hooking up an 8TB Raid hard drive to it for digitizing, backup and editing on FCP 6 and would like to have a higher speed available than the laptop's FireWire 400 provides. Is there a way to augment/build out the MacBook to utilize either a FireWire 800 slot or an eSATA EC2 card? I don't think this version of the MacBook (MacBook4,1) has a PCI or PCIe card slot. Although I believe it may have a mini-PCIe card somewhere, as the last page of the Users Guide says (under Europe—EU Declaration of Conformity):
"Hereby, Apple Inc. declares that this 802.11a/b/g/n Mini-PCIe card is in compliance with the R&TTE Directive."
Thanks for any suggestions!

No you would need to get a MacBook Pro to have FireWire 800. The card they are talking about is the Airport card.

Satellite P300-220 (PSPCCE) and express card with firewire

I have problems with a shared IRQ between firewire (IEEE1394) connector and ati radeon 4600 mobility.(the IRQ used by both device is the 16)
This sharing make my firestudio presonus (sound card external via firewire) problems while reading music on my DAO.
I would like to buy an express card to solve this problem but i must be sure than it will not be the same IRQ (16) than the other firewire connection.
If you are using such a card please verify wich IRQ is used when it's connected on the laptop.
You can see it with the device manager.
Thanks a lot.
toskidus

Hi
The Windows OS controls and assigns automaticity all recourses to all controllers!
In my case the SD host controller and the graphic card shares the same IRQ 16 and there is NO conflict.
So I doubt that your issue is related to the same IRQ which is uses by graphic card and firewire.
Sorry but this is everything what I can suggest regarding your issue

Is my Firewire 800 PCI card fried?

A couple of days ago my G4 with Sonnet dual 1.8 Ghz processors woke up. There was an immediate warning on my screen in five languages that something bad had happened. I rebooted and all was OK, except my G-RAID 320 gig wouldn't mount. I had it connected via Firewire 800. There was nothing I could do to get it on my desktop, including swapping cables. It shows up fine if I connect via Firewire 400.
I just tried it again after installing Leopard, and it still won't mount via FW 800. My thoughts are that my LaCie FW 800 PCI card is blown and I'll need to replace it. Any other ideas?

Hi! Try resetting the pmu. Press the button once with all external cables unhooked. Tom
Here's an example of the button location.
QS/DA
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FW800
[IMG]http://img49.imageshack.us/img49/3729/fw800logicbd4xu.jpg[/IMG]
Sawtooth
[IMG]http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/5706/sawtoothlogicbd2yu.jpg[/IMG]
MDD
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Trouble installing SIIG Firewire 800 3-port PCIe card

I bought a Siig Firewire 800 3-port PCIe card. I am unable to install it on my G5 Quad 2.5 ghz dual 500 GIG HD PCIe because there isn't a power port to plug into. I called Apple & they said no can do. Siig support said I could plug into my "DVD drive". I rechecked the super drive & confirmed that there is not a forr pin in line power port. I have read postings of other G5 (dual processor) owners using this card. Is my problem unique to the G5 quad or is there a solution? Please help John

Most of the time if a card or something requires power, the vendor should have included a "Y-splitter" with it so that you can run DVD and card.
I thought PCIe would have more than enough, too. I tend to avoid SIIG though, having seen too many issues on various cards. They use to use ACard but seem to be branching out on their own.
There are some other FW800 PCIe. I think www.barefeats.com either did or was going to review a few. And of course OWC would have a list.
Not sure it will help, can't hurt, but I have seen and heard where a drive wouldn't mount but did after reset nvram was done. Something that ATTO recommends when changing PCI cards (like UL5D).
Oh -one thing - does the LaCie show up connected to native FW800 port okay?

USB to Express Card adapter/Express Card to Firewire

Macbook Air October 2010.
Comes with two USB 2.0 ports
Can I do the following?
- Connect USB to Express Card adapter
- Connect the Express Card port to a Firewire adapter
- Connect MiniDV camcorder to Firewire port

Also... as they went through the trouble to specifically indicate the compatible cards, I would imagine there are known incompatibilities with other card types. None of the cards they list would have difficulty over USB. Each of these cards already have similar counterparts that are available to connect directly to USB (vs. using an express card). This would seem most useful for people that may already have express cards that they use in other notebooks so they could use them in a machine without an express card slot... otherwise I would imagine people would just get the USB versions of these devices. USB hubs can obviously connect directly to a USB port, memory card readers are also available for connecting directly to a USB port. RS232 is pretty dated and USB can easily handle RS 232 throughput. I'm not exactly sure what a printer card is... but printers generally connect via USB (or parallel in older machines)... again... very easy for USB to handle. In order for it to work with firewire, they would have to have a hardware translator built into it. I'm sure they would list firewire if it was an option.

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