Expression / Volume pedal on channel strips

I need to fade a channel strip in and out using an expression pedal, without affecting the other channel strips on that patch. I'm familiar with assigning the volume pedal at the concert level to control master volume, but this is a function I don't know how to do.
I've tried filtering the expression on the channel strip, but of course that doesn't work, because the pedal is controlling the master volume. Help?

You can assign the volume/expression pedal at the concert, set, or patch level .... depending if you want it doing the same thing at concert level, or to change its function for different patches.
1) learn the pedal in the layout window, so your layout control is visually changing and responding as you move the pedal.
2) in Edit mode, select the patch you want to fix up (concert level, set, or patch .... whichever you want).
3) select the channel strip you want to control.
4) select the volume control you assigned in step 1 on the screen. make sure you can view the inspector(s).
5) in Screen Control Inspector, go to Unmapped, and drill down to the attribute you want to control. If you already have the control mapped, you will need to unmap it first.

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Thank you very much for your answer. I tried it yesterday, but it doesnt really work for me to be honest. The thing is that I really wanna stick to one patch, so that I can have like one patch for each song.
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I found a thread back in November that asked a similar question, but the thread is archived and I couldn't reply.
I've got an Axiom 25 MIDI controller going into Mainstage 2 via USB. This keyboard has eight percussion pads. I've got those pads transmitting on MIDI channel 10, and the keyboard transmitting on channel 1 (verified by the midi monitor at the top of the Mainstage edit screen).
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Unfortunately, you have discovered a missing feature that Logic desperately needs, if it is to continue using the word "Pro" in it's title.
As you know, you can copy from the audio configuration window, but that will replace all other track assignments, plug-ins etc... not the intended result.
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