Exrended Desktop in Tiger/PowerMac G4 MDD

Hi, I just made the switch full time into OSX, running Tiger 10.4.3. Previously I was running 9.2 and switching into OSX 10.2 as needed. I was running an extra monitor with an extended desktop for my pallettes, etc that worked in both systems. Now in 10.4 I am not even given the option to extended the desktop in displays, nor does it detect anything when "Detect Display" is clicked. The big question is Why doesn;t it work?, but in light of that could it be the extra video card is no longer compatable perhaps? I'd really like to get the extended desktop back.
iBook 900 (14) 9.2/PowerMac G4 MDD 10.4   Mac OS X (10.4.3)  

Just to add if the computer has an old OS installed (older than the version that shipped with the MDD), I guess it's possible the drive lacks full support at the OS level. Like Dave says, I expect it's just the jumper settings and changing them from cable select to master should get the drive working. If the drive still can't be used when burning discs via the OS disc burner and iTunes etc though, it may be an OS/application problem. Third party applications like Toast etc should still work though.

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