Exs samples reload on every save.

So I have this particular song I'm working on in LP8, originally created in LP7. Part of my workflow, for better or worse, is saving incremental versions of the particular file I'm working on. For example "song title 8"... "song title 9" etc. For some reason, on this particular song every time I save it, all of the open plug-in windows go black for several seconds and then any channels using an instance of exs reload all of the samples, as if the file was being opened for the first time. This happens every time I hit save.
The first couple of versions of the song I worked on under LP8 didn't do this. It just started happening one day, for no obvious reason in particular. Anyone got an idea why? It's really slowing me down on this song.
Thanks in advance.

Are you sure it's reloading the samples or not just saving them to the new project folder? As your project gets bigger, collating all the pieces might take longer and longer. Maybe you even have "Copy EXS instruments to project folder" selected in the save dialog? (which if creating a new set of project folders - when you change the name - is what's taking all that time.)
Just a thought!

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