EXS24

Hi.
I seem to have stumbled upon a bit of a problem and I cant seem to find a solution. While trying to set up a new instrument in the EXS24 I noticed that for some bizzaire reason, everytime I hit a key on my outboard synth to trigger a sample within the ESX24, the sample would play an octave higher. The midi in/out on the transport bar is congruent to the key I'm playing on the synth, but within the instrument editor page, the key being triggered is one octave higher. For example I hit C1 the note that is triggered and plays is C2 and so on.
When i click on the keys in the instrument editor the same thing happens only both C1 AND C2 play.
This must be a thing within the actual song setting of something as I've opened old songs and empty arrange page's and the problem isn't there.
Does anyone have a answer to my problem?
If so, please help.
Thanks

Hi. Ignore my question as I have already answered it. For some reason a transpose was set an octave up in the part display area. Typically a schoolboy error which i admit. the odd thing was, was that it seemed to effect all my EXS24's and not the track selected. Anyway, sorry to all the people who read this and realise that it is a waste of your time.
Peace out..

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