Extend Verizon 802.11g router using AEBS in bridge mode for better reception by Airport Express at other end of apt.?

I connect to the internet using a Verizon FIOS router, 802.11g. The brand name is Actiontec MI424-Rev. D. I stream music from my MacBook Pro and/or iPhone and use an Airport Express to connect to my stereo receiver, which is wired to in-wall speakers. The streaming experience is pretty uneven. The Apple Store recommended an Airport Extreme to beef up the network. Note: this is an average Manhattan apartment, not a vast mansion, but there is lots of interference due to a couple dozen other wireless networks in my building. Which is the best way to set up the network for more robust streaming and fewer dropouts?

Ok, then let's start with the following as the basic configuration of your "single" wireless network.
The Actiontec will be the main Internet router; no configuration changes would be required.
Connect the 802.11n AirPort Extreme Base Station (AEBSn) directly to the Actiontec router by Ethernet; reconfigure the AEBSn as a bridge, and also, reconfigure the AEBSn as the "main" base station in the extended wireless network.
Connect the 802.11n AirPort Express Base Station (AXn), by wireless to the AEBSn. Configure the AXn to extend the wireless range of the AEBSn.
The following are step-by-step instructions on configuring the AirPorts for an extended network:
Dynamic WDS - Extending a Wireless Network Setup
Temporarily connect the AXn directly to one of the available LAN ports on the AEBSn during the setup phase. Once completed, disconnect the AXn and place it at the desired location.
Open AirPort Utility, and then, select the AEBSn.
Choose Manual Setup from the Base Station menu. Enter the base station password if necessary.
Click Internet in the toolbar, and then, click on the Internet Connection tab. Change Connection Sharing to "Off (Bridge Mode)."
Click AirPort in the toolbar, and then, click on the Wireless tab.
Choose “Create a wireless network” from the Wireless Mode pop-up menu, and then, select the “Allow this network to be extended” checkbox.
Next, select the AXn, and then, choose Manual Setup from the Base Station menu. Enter the base station password if necessary.
Choose “Extend a wireless network” from the Wireless Mode pop-up menu, and then, choose the network you want to extend from the Network Name pop-up menu.
Enter the base station network and base station password if necessary.
Click Update to update the base station with new network settings.
(ref: Pages 43-44 of Apple AirPort Networks.)
(ref: Wi-Fi base stations: Extending the range of your wireless network by adding additional Wi-Fi base stations)

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I see nobody else has jumped in.. so I read this last night and thought it was a bit too hard..
But perhaps I can get you to at least clarify some stuff.
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What model is the arris? Since it has its own wireless it is a router.. or what is sometimes called gateway.
I have been using a AEBS (ac) as router in bridge mode
You cannot use "as router" in bridge.. they are opposites.. but I think you just mean.. AEBS is in bridge.. the mention of router is to qualify the AEBS which we know is a router.
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I do not use server and I would not have done the setup this way to get access to your files.. but the vpn service should work.
Test by using a computer on the local network running a vpn client to see if you can log in to the server. It is much easier to get things working locally before you attempt to do it remotely.
What type of vpn is it.. I can look it up but easier if you post the details.. each vpn uses different port forwarding requirements. PPTP is different to IPSEC which is different to L2TP which is different to SSL.
After doing some searching I found tutorials on how to run the AEBS in DHCP and NAT mode, which results in a double NAT error the way my modem/provider service is setup.
You cannot run two routers.. that will mess things up. The AEBS should be in bridge.. double NAT will kill your access.
I have not been able to find a tutorial how to configure the server in Internet mode behind the AEBS (ac) router in bridge mode. I do have a domain name, but the service provider does not offer Dynamic DNS service. And I did let the server install the DNS services automatically.
Some of this I have not used.. so I cannot say much.. I much prefer to do vpn using vpn routers.. it is far easier.
Anyway.. the bridged AEBS is irrelevant.. your problem is needing to setup the Arris for VPN pass through. This sometimes involves something simple like tick a box.. it can also be complicated and need port forwarding.
You can use Dynamic DNS client in the Arris.. that will be the best place to set this up.
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Let me also suggest you run ethernet directly to the arris .. bypass the Extreme altogether.. it is not related to this setup but can cause issues.. because Apple have some inbuilt ipsec security for BTMM.
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Hi, this is a re-branded follow-up post of a question yesterday.
I'm trying to make my AEBS work in bridge mode without success. I have followed instructions from documentation (http://manuals.info.apple.com/en/DesigningAirPort_Networksv4.2.pdf) but it still does not work.
Here is a quick picture of what I have done:
iMac-))))((((- AEBS ----- MacBook
The iMac has its Airport interface and the MacBook its built-in ethernet interface manually configured on a common subnet. The AEBS does not allocate IPs and has a self-assigned IP. The AEBS is physically connected to the MacBook via its LAN port.
Still the iMac and MacBook cannot see each other.
Questions:
- The AEBS and the macs are configured to use WAP2 personal. Can that cause a pbm?
- What else should I check?
- Any other info I coud provide to help?
Thx for any help
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MacBook, iMac, mini, G4 Mac OS X (10.4.8)
MacBook, iMac, mini, G4 Mac OS X (10.4.8)
MacBook, iMac, mini, G4 Mac OS X (10.4.8)
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If I understand your post correctly, you are using your iMac as a wireless base station to create a wireless network. Then you want your AEBS to join that network. Is that correct?
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