Extended classic to Classic
Hi,
When would a switch from ECS to Classic be justifiable?
Thanks.
Dear srm_tech,
There can be many reasons. From business prospective, if the client wants to creates a reservation out of shopping cart in self service procurement scenario for the items that are already available in the stock, it is supported by classic scenario only and can be a good reason for switching to classic from extended classic scenario.
Secondly, for a particular set of suppliers, you have well defined EDI interface and you want to continue to use them. Then, you can think of using classic scenario to use existing communicaltion channels.
I hope, it helps you.
Thanks and regards,
Ranjan
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Has anyone involved project that customer has switched from Extended Classic to Classic in production system?
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Customer is going to upgrade and switch their production system to SRM 7.0 Classic.
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PS -> MM PR -> SRM Sourcing -> SRM PO (Extended) -> SUS PO -> SUS PO Response
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I see an issue if we switch SRM-SUS to MM-SUS, SUS PO is created before switch and PO Response is created after switch.
Do you have any lessens and learned topics for switching Extended Classic to Classic? Which documents have to be take care?
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If I need to switch back completely from Extended classic to Classic scenario do I need to activate any BADI?
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Give your comments.
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I would like to know what are the precaution required when we need to change the scenario from Extended classic to Classic?
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I dont know much about SRM addon ECC.
in general
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Convert classic in extended classic scenario
hai,
i wanted to convert classis scenario into extended classic scenario.what are all the steps that i needed to be follow.does it require any implementation of badi?how the po will be sent to the r3 in display mode?
could anyone give the solution
Edited by: chakradhar nannapaneni on May 11, 2009 12:45 PMHi,
1. Activate the extended classic scenario
When the extended classic scenario is set, SRM generates a local purchase order for each item in the shopping cart. All follow-on documents are created in the backend system as well as locally in the SRM
2. Activate IPC pricing
Since SRM 3.5 IPC (Internet Pricing Configurator) pricing is mandatory for extended classic implementations.
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IMG SRM: Sap Implementation Guide Supplier Relationship Management SRM Server Cross-Application Basic Settings Activate Extended Classic Scenario
IMG SRM: Sap Implementation Guide Supplier Relationship Management SRM Server Business Add-ins for SRM Pricing
Check whether the BAdIs relevant for the pricing are activated correctly and filled with the correct coding:
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Abraham -
Hello
I understand the difference between Extended Classic and Classic Scenario with the follow on document creation. But, I need to understand the business benifits of implementing Extended Classic Scenario as opposed to Classic Scenario in SRM. In what business scenario do one suggest Extended Classic.
Appreciate every answer
Thanks
VijayHi Vijay,
The most important thing to consider when choosing the implementation scenario is to consider which system will support the different steps of the procurement process.
In case of the classic scenario, after creation of the request (shopping cart) in SRM, the remaining process steps will be handled / supported in the back-end system (ECC). Goods receipt can be executed in both systems. This would be a good choice if the organization has already an operational back-end system and the users from the purchasing department are already familiar (and happy) with all the MM functionality. SRM will only function as a support tool for administrating the purchasing needs of the end-users in the organization.
In case of the extended-classic implementation scenario the complete purchasing process will be supported in the SRM system (most organizations prefer to use the back-end system for invoice verification). Thus requesters, purchasers, goods recipients etc. all will use the SRM system to support their respective activities. This would be the preferred scenario in case both MM (ECC) and SRM are new to the organisation and will be implemented together.
SRM offers the different users a nicer user interface as opposed to the R/3 screens. Also the (strategic) sourcing capabilities of SRM can only be used when implementing the extended classic scenario. Same for the Suplier Enablement business scenariou2019s. Most are only supported when extended classic is active.
So depending on the intentions of the organization a choice can be made. SRM only as a tool for administrating the decentralized request from the end users in the organization: Classic scenario will suffice. SRM as a tool to support the complete purchasing process, from sourcing till evaluation - Extended classic will be the correct choice.
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Skander -
Reverting to classic scenario in SRM7.1, from PPS and extended classic
Hello Experts,
Recently we have moved from SRM7 to SRM 7.01, in which we can have PPS without Extended classic scenario.
As business wants classic scenario, How can we make the system as classic , in which PPS and extended classic is activated.
any badi is available for this? Please help.
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RajuRaju,
Basically you have few points to keep in mind. (yes you need to activate the SPRO config for extended classic, apart from this).
1. switch between extended classic and classic is actually defined by the backend logical system of the document. if thats SRM itself then it follows the path of extended classic or if it is ECC then it follows classic.
because its basically creating a follow on document and that explains the scenario.
2. it also depends on what object are you expecting to be created. from a SC many documents can be created.
a. PO in SRM
b. PO in ECC
c. PR in ECC
d. Reservation in ECC
- so, if you can define at any point that where is your document to be created and what is to be created you can control the flow.
Now to do this. if you have few options.
Option1:
1. set the object types(2) for product categories (config, backend document type).
2. implement BBP_EXTLOCALPO_BADI to switch off extended classic
Options 2:
1. in doc change badi, change the backend destination to ECC
2. in Badi BBP_TARGET_OBJTYPE pass the object type you want your follow on document to be.
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Partner functions OA and IP missing for Vendor in Extended classic PO
As part of current Classic scenario, we have maintained OA (Ordering Address) and PI (Invoicing Party) for a vendor in R/3. We have also maintained different ordering addresses for multiple plants in the Vendor master: Partner functions screen --> Alternative data.
I would like to acheive the same functionality in Extended Classic scenario. We have replicated the vendors from R/3 to SRM. After activating Extended Classic scenario, we see only VN as the partner function in R/3 PO.
Q1. How can we enable OA and PI partner functions in R/3 PO (Extended Classic) ?
Q2. How can we enable different ordering addresses for multiple plants in R/3 PO (Extended Classic) ?Hi
Which SRM Server are you using ?
<b>You need to maintain Partner Functions in the SRM Server - SPRO Transaction - Configuration Settings.</b>
<u>Here is the Path from SPRO Transaction -></u>
<b>Supplier Relationship Management -> SRM Server -> Cros Application Basic-Settings -> Define Partner Functions</b>
<u>Maintain Similar entries as mentioned below.</u>
Function Function Type Usage Description Abbreviation
00000016 0013 B2B Requester RQ
00000017 0007 B2B Contact Person CP
00000018 0011 B2B Bidder BI
00000019 0012 B2B Vendor VD
00000020 0002 B2B Goods Recipient GR
00000025 0014 B2B Portal Provider PP
00000026 0008 B2B Responsible Employee RE
00000027 0017 B2B Ship-To Address DP
00000028 0003 B2B Invoice Recipient IR
00000029 0015 B2B Invoicing Party IP
00000030 0018 B2B Ship-From Address SP
00000034 0002 B2B Plant PLNT
00000038 0001 B2B Sold-to Party ORDR
00000039 0026 B2B Preferred Vendor PRVD
00000051 0019 B2B Purch. Org. Auth. For Release AREL
00000074 0025 B2B Service Agent SERV
00000075 0031 B2B Location LOCA
00000097 0034 B2B Invoicing Party Employee IPEm
<u><b>Hope this will definitely help.</b></u>
<u>More details -></u>
<b>For 1), see these links below -></b>
Partner function missing in backend PO
Re: Error in transmission while PO cration
"Multiple" partner data at PO header
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Number range for business partner
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Classic Scenario PO has multiple OA Partner Functions for Vendor
<u>For 2), see the pointers -></u>
<u><i>There is an article written by Jason Didday at www.saptips.com entitled "mySAP SRM and SAP R/3 Partner Functions: Supporting OAs, VNs and IPs" that you may find useful.</i></u>
<u>In SRM, there is no standard relation betwwen plant and vendor master data.
You can use BBP_GET_VMDATA_CF BADI to add backend data in SRM while using BBPGETVD and BBPUPDVD transactions.</u>
Replication of Ordering Address from R/3 to SRM
Re: Adding Partner Function to R/3 PO from SRM in Classic using BADI
Partner function Payee in SRM
Adding Partner Function to R/3 PO from SRM in Classic using BADI
Do let me know.
Regards
- Atul -
Can we use both Stand alone and Extended classic in one SRM system
Hi All,
Our client is now using Stand alone SRM system with back-end R/3 FI-CO system. Now they want to go Extended classic scenario for few product categories.
Would it be possible to use both in one SRM system? If possible could you please provide what are the sequential steps to do this?
Thanks in advance.
Regards,
RamHi Ramesh,
How did you end up solving your problem, as i have the same scenario. Did you use this BADI (
SRM Server->Business Add-Ins->Control Extended Classic Scenario->Activate Extended Classic Scenario)? Based on my reading, it seems this BADI is relevant to switch between extended classic and classic scenarios.
From what i understand, we can control the standalone scenario via the define backend system configuration (SAP SRM -> SRM Server -> Technical Basic Settings -> Define Backend System for Product Category). In my scenario, I have one set of product categories, so i will likely need to implement this BADI (BBP_DETERMINE_LOGSYS, method: DETERMINE_LOGSYS - SAP SRM -> SRM Server -> Business Add-Ins ->Shopping Carts and Requirement Items -> Determine Backend System / Company Code) in order to determine the correct backend system based on company/plant for example.
Did you then leave the extended classic scenario activated (IMG --> Supplier Relationship Management -> SRM Server-> Cross-Application Basic Settings->
Activate Extended Classic Scenario)?
Or how did you achieve both standalone and extended classic using one SRM server?
cheers,
AD -
Deltas in changing Classic scenarios to Extended Classic Scenario
Hi All,
Currently my client has Classic scenario partially implemented and work in progress. Now a idea of changing to ECS is proposed because in the first place Classic/ECS for Pre-Encumberance is not standard SAP 5.0 unless applying OSS which is not been proven successful so far.
So I would like to know what Config be required to change Classic to ECS other than Material master product category determination and activation of ECS flag, and old POs to convert inorder to do Conf in SRM. Please advise soon as I need to suggest the board soon.
Regards
RaoHi,
Re: Switching over from Extended Classic to Classic Scenario
Could be helpful.
Thanks
prasad.s -
SRM standalone and extended classic
Hi Experts,
Configuration: ECC 6.0 (with Ehp4 installed - (not activated)
SRM 7.0
Just want to seek confirmation of my understanding re: SRM implementation scenarios. Is it possible to have a extended classic and standalone setup using the same SRM server with same client? Both will have the same product categories. These will be for two separate entities/companies.
Thanks in advance.
Regards.Hi Mike,
How did you end up solving your problem, as i have the same scenario. Did you use this BADI (
SRM Server->Business Add-Ins->Control Extended Classic Scenario->Activate Extended Classic Scenario)? Based on my reading, it seems this BADI is relevant to switch between extended classic and classic scenarios.
From what i understand, we can control the standalone scenario via the define backend system configuration (SAP SRM -> SRM Server -> Technical Basic Settings -> Define Backend System for Product Category). In your scenario, you have one set of product categories, just like mine, so i assume you had to implement this BADI (BBP_DETERMINE_LOGSYS, method: DETERMINE_LOGSYS - SAP SRM -> SRM Server -> Business Add-Ins ->Shopping Carts and Requirement Items -> Determine Backend System / Company Code) in order to determine the correct backend system based on company/plant for example.
Did you then leave the extended classic scenario activated *
MG --> Supplier Relationship Management -> SRM Server-> Cross-Application Basic Settings->
Activate Extended Classic Scenario)?
Or how did you achieve both standalone and extended classic using one SRM server?
cheers,
AD -
Why extended Classic is implemented
Hi Everybody,
I was working in SAP SRM for past 3 years and only Support Experience. Yesterday attended an interview and he asked me why your client has implemented Extended Classic why not Classic Scenario?
I know it depends to client-to-client.
Can any one let me know the list of points need to be discussed to support this question. My answer was not impressive.
SreeHi Sree,
You are right here it depends on the client whether to configure the system for extended classic and classic scenario.
The extended classic scenario suits customer who wants to
their purchasing department to save time and money by using the streamlined purchasing functionality of SAP SRM
use the full sourcing capabilities offered by SAP SRM, yet who also want to be able to confirm and invoice direct materials
the flexibility of being able to pre-enter confirmations and invoices
Where the classic scenario suits the customer who wants:
wide user group, for example employees not necessarily working in the purchasing department, to be able to enter their requirements quickly and easily. SAP SRM’s functionality and ease of navigation allow this, as it requires only minimal training
their purchasing department to operate solely with the functionality offered by the backend system(s)
For whom a transfer of purchasing activities to SAP SRM is not viable in SAP SRM
You can use both the classic and extended classic capabilities by configuring the product categories
Please let me know if the above answer is helpful.
Best Regards,
Ankit Jain
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