"extended network" warning

Greetings,
I have a Aiport Extreme running version 7.6.4 which is connected to my time capsule (same version) for my home network. I also have an airport express (v 7.6.4) which i've configured to extend my wireless network. For whatever reason I'm getting an "extended network" warning. The express is in range and configured with the right password and network name. Any suggestions on how to correct this?
Thanks,
Ryan.

OK, thanks for the clarification on that.
The shortcut fix to try if you want to possibly save a few minutes:
Power off the AirPort Extreme and the AirPort Express
Wait a minute, then power up the AirPort Extreme and let it run a full minute
Then, power up the AirPort Express to see if it is extending correctly without errors
It will take more time, but is a better procedure:
Power off the Time Capsule, AirPort Extreme and AirPort Express and wait a minute
Then, power up either the Time Capsule or AirPort Extreme (whichever you consider your "main" device) and let it run a minute
Then, power up the other device for a minute
Finally power up the AirPort Express
Please report on your results.

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Thanks for clarifying. If you don't mind, let's double-check your extended-network setup configuration:
o Open AirPort Utility and select the Time Capsule (TC), and then, choose Manual Setup from the Base Station menu.
o Click AirPort in the toolbar, and then, click Wireless.
o Verify that both “Create a wireless network” from the Wireless Mode pop-up menu and “Allow this network to be extended” checkbox are selected.
o Next, select the 802.11n AirPort Extreme Base Station (AEBSn), and then, choose Manual Setup from the Base Station menu.
o Verify that “Extend a wireless network” has been selected from the Wireless Mode pop-up menu. Also verify that the correct Network Name is shown for the network you want the AEBSn to extend.
Do your settings match these?

Difference between new network and extended network

Difference between extended network and new network settings

An "extended" network acts as one large wireless network. Wireless devices can roam anywhere a signal is present and stay on the network without having to make any changes.
A "new" network will require that a wireless device manually "switch" to that network and enter the password for the network to connect whenever you want to use that network. In other words, a "new" network will use a different wireless network name and password, which will require that you manually log on to that network.
The exception would be if you created a "new" wireless network and used the same wireless network name, same wireless security settings and same password as the "main" network and connected the AirPort back to the main router using an Ethernet cable. In that case, you would have an "Ethernet extended wireless" network.

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Surprisingly my extended network often goes to zero. I've a traditional wep encripted extended network using two airport extreme. When the network goes to zero I see the indicator on the upper right corner disappear anche the green light of the airport becomes flashing yellow. After 30 seconds the situation auto-fixes.
How can I solve the problem? I've just checked the main range, it works properly!.
Thanks in advance for your help.
Regards.

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"Hard reset" the bedroom Extreme to preclude the possibility that some corrupted internal parameter is limiting its performance. Consider doing that with all of them. They will subsequently need to be reconfigured.
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Run speed tests each time and make sure you are not trying to "extend" a weak signal. "Extending" a weak signal makes it stronger, but no faster that what it receives.
That's all you can do.
... I thought "N" networks minimized that problem.
You're right about that.
The thing is I get decent wireless reception in the bedroom WITHOUT the express plugged in.
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The first troubleshooting step for any kind of network "issue" is a complete power cycle of the network. This gives everything a "fresh start" with new connections.
Power off the entire network.....all devices....in any order you want
Wait a minute or two
Start the modem/router first, and let it run a full minute
Start the AirPort Extreme next and let it run a full minute
Keep starting devices one at a time about a minute apart until the entire network is back up
Check the network again with the MBA and report on your results
Do not worry about the iPhone and iPad....they are pretty much hopeless as far as automatically switching from one access point to another....but the MBA should if it is working correctly.

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Thanks for your response. I set up the wireless network because running Cat-5 was cost prohibitive. My internet connection is very good for general purposes but I ask the question, somewhat academically, because Wi-Fi Explorer shows the Max Rate of the network devices as follows:
Airport Express (located in the bedroom): 144 Mbps @ 2.4 GHz
Airport Extreme (in the pantry): 217 [email protected] GHz
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