Extended random sleep problem

I've seen several threads here about PBs randomly turning off, and lots of tips to try to fix the problem. However, my PB randomly went to sleep but hasn't turned on for almost 12 hours. Before, it would wake up after 30 minutes at the most. I know its still asleep because the light is still pulsing, but I'm kind of stuck. It won't turn on, it won't shut down. Any ideas of what to do?
-AJ
Powerbook G4    

AJ,
You could be having the same problem I am experiencing and while it isn't fully solved, I am getting around it quite comfortably for the time being. If you go to a thread with my name called "sleeps and won't wake" on the same forum there's a description and web link to an alternative trackpad driver called Sidetrack which, if you install, stops the pb from sleeping at random. It costs nothing and has worked for me. I did upgrade to 10.4.3 in the hope that apple had fixed the problem and unistalled sidetrack but the problem began to reoccur. Worth a go.
John

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