Extending a Gen 5 Extreme with an early model Express

I have been running a Gen 2 Extreme with a WDS extension setup for my early model 802 a/b/g Express. When I replaced my Gen 2 Extreme with the newest Gen 5, the Airport Utility screens have changed and don't appear to offer options to identify my Express as an extention.
Need some thoughts on how to deal with this.
Thanks

The key is to use the Option key before making the Wireless Mode selection for the 5G AirPort Extreme Base Station (AEBSn). You should find the familar "Participate in a WDS network" option when you do.
You should be aware that there are two major drawbacks of using this earlier "static" WDS configuration:
The extended network will only operate in the 802.11g radio mode. Effectively, negating the advantage of your new AEBSn.
For every base station added to the WDS, the overall bandwidth will be cut in half. So, in your case, you'll only be getting around 25 - 27 Mbps. A far cry short of the 300+ Mbps that the AEBSn is capable of.

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There is not much more to it than to buy a new one, and configure it using AirPort Utility.
You should be using AirPort Utility 5.6.1.
Power down your modem before removing your older Extreme and connecting the new one.

I am extending my airport extreme by adding an airport express. I had no problem setting it up and got green lights but now I cannot get on either because it says it is a self assigned IP?

I am extending my airport extreme by adding an airport express. I had no problem setting it up and got green lights but now I cannot get on either because it says it is a self assigned IP?

i am extending my airport extreme by adding an airport express.
Does this mean that you are connecting the AirPort Express to the AirPort Extreme using a wired Ethernet connection....or....are you connecting the AirPort Express to the AirPort Extreme wirelessly?
but now I cannot get on either because it is a self assigned IP?
I suggest that you first concentrate on getting the AirPort Extreme working correctly. Power off the modem and both the Extreme and Express, wait a few minutes, then power up the modem and let it run a few minutes. Then, power up the AirPort Extreme and check the network for proper operation. Leave the AirPort Express off for now. Report on your results.
We need to know what operating system you are using on your Mac or PC in order to provide more troubleshooting help.
If you have a Mac and do not know what operating system you are using, click the Apple icon in the upper left corner of the screen, then click About This Mac. Post back with the OS X version number that you see there.

Extend new airport extreme with 2 additional airports

Hi,
Just got a brand new airport extreme (ac model) and this is now my setup:
1. New Extreme is main router
2. Older 4th gen Extreme is extending main Extreme
3. Airport Express N (1st gen) is extending older Extreme
Things seem to work but when using iStumber for testing (normally what I do) I only see 4 networks not 5. I do not see a network for my Express although it seems that I have a connection there based on signal strength. Both extenders have green lights (and of course the main), but I'm a bit confused by this. I have my network with a different name for 5GHz (didn't realize older Extreme would extend both bands but seems to be the case), but I'm only intending to extend the 2.4GHz band with the Express. Also funny thing is when I'm near my Express in iStumbler the strongest network seems to be the 2.4GHz band from my main router which should be impossible since I'm too far away. Unless when being extended now the Express is being masked to appear as my main router? But this was never the case before when I only had one extender...
Ok hope this makes sense can someone please educate me on this thanks for your time,
rc

I thought you could put more than 2
You can....but each extender must communicate directly to the main router. Apple's extend feature works like the hub and spokes of a wheel.
Your new AirPort Extreme is the "hub". The old Extreme resides at the end of a "spoke", and as such it communicates directly to the "hub".
You can have other extenders at the ends of other "spokes", but each one of them communicates directly to the "hub"......not to another extender at the end of another "spoke".
So even thought Extend is selected it just functions as Join?
Yes, if you try to make it connect to another extender.
Should I just change it to Join?
Up to you. it does not matter.
And now if I can only use the 2 Extremes since they are both dual-band there is no reason to really have separate names is there?
Again, up to you. Things are a lot simpler though, if you use just one network name.
in the Airport Utility overview sometimes all 3 airports are coming stacked on top of each other and sometimes my new Extreme is on top and the older ones are side by side underneath does this make a difference?
First, I hope you are not using AirPort Utility on an iPhone or iPad, because things do not always appear accurately on those devices.
The "new" Extreme" should be at the top of the stack. The old Extreme with a dotted line between the new and old indicates that the old Extreme is connecting using wireless and extending.
If the Express appears side by side with old Extreme, it is extending. If it appears under the old Extreme, then it is connecting to the old Extreme and it is not extending.
If you experiment with the location of the Express, you might be able to get it to extend the new AirPort Extreme. It will help if it is closer to the new Extreme than it is to the old Extreme.

I want to replace one of my older Airport Extremes with the new model. Any tips?

I have 2 older airport extreems that are connected by a network cable. They share the same Netrwork ID.
I want to replace one of them with the new model as I want to use the old router on another project.
Any tips out there for a no-issue switch?
Should the newer and faster Extreme be connected to the Modem or does it nt make a didfference?
Thanks

use the new router as your primary router with the modem - this will be a factory install from the default configuration - as long as you use same network name password and type a password that you used for the express in bridge mode, you should be able to plug it in and have it work like before. just make sure that you configure everything individually and then power all devices down and repower each one individually starting with the modem then the router in the express and that should work

Extend wireless airport extreme with airport express with through ethernet cable, extend wireless airport extreme with airport express with through ethernet cable

i want to extend my wirless range i using airport extreme upstairs and airport express down i have ethernet cable linking the two but airport express seems to go wireless and is extremly slow any help appreciated

Start with a "hard reset" of your Express - press and hold its reset button continuously, about five seconds, until its LED flashes rapidly. You will need to reconfigure all its settings.
Connect it to your Extreme with your Ethernet cable. Using AirPort Utility, configure its Internet Connection to "Connect Using" > "Ethernet" as in the following screenshot:
If it had been previously configured to "join" a wireless network and you connect its Ethernet cable to your wired LAN, you may experience what you are describing.

Can I extend my wireless network with a WIRED Airport Express?

So I've seen many, many threads (both here & elswhere on the web) that talk about extending a network wirelessly, but that's not my exact goal.
I have a Linksys WRT54G and an older (non-N) Airport Express. My intention is this: come out of the cable modem and into the WRT54G's LAN port. (Typical.) Then I have wall jack-plates where ethernet runs are extended to various rooms in my home. The WRT54G is on one end of the house and at the far end the wireless signal is basically useless.
I would like to come out of one of the WRT54G ports into the wall jack and then hard-wire into the Airport Express (at the far end of the house) for the sake of increasing the wireless signal there. I know that there are WDS issues with the Airport Express and NON-Apple networking gear. However, does hard-wiring the AE circumvent this?
How should I configure the AE, if this is possible at all? As a relay, as a remote? Join the extisting network, etc.

Interestingly the Linksys WRT-54G is one of the few non-Apple routers that are WDS-compatible with the earlier 802.11g AirPorts. There are a number of posts on the Internet (use the following search terms: Linksys AirPort WDS) where the authors described how they configured theirs to work.
If; however, you don't want to "experiment," your suggestion to interconnect the two routers by Ethernet should work just fine. In this case, you would want to configure them both for a roaming network.

Setting up an extended network from extreme with express

Hi,
Let me just explain what I am trying to do and I would love any help or suggestions.
I have the modem going into the airport extreme. The extreme is about 30 feet away, hard wired and hanging upside down in my hallway (should it be on the wall or upside down on ceiling?) From the airport extreme I have a cable going to a 8 port hub which I have my PS3, XBOX 360, Roku, Apple TV, 3D DVD and two 3D Tv's hooked up so there all hardwired. Another cable is coming from the airport extreme and I want to take that further into the house down the hallway and wire that into an aiport express which would then boost my signal. Is my thought process wrong there? I know I can do all that with my airport extreme, and then putting my airport express within range of the extreme I can wirelessly extend the network but I was thinkning I could have a wifi network from the extreme and then have the airport express hardwired to boost the network instead of it boosting it wirlessly. If I am not making sense let me know. I had the airport express extending the network wirelessly but it was not helping at all. Both are brand new, the extreme and the express. The wireless clients are all new also, new macbook, macbook pro, 2009 iMac, 3 iPhone 4's and 2 iPad 2's so I am pretty sure there all wireless N devices so it should not slow down my network right? I have no techincal background, just learning this from reading forums etc so I am trying to give all information that I can think of thats useful. Please ask any question and I will answer, I just hope I can figure something out. I live in a 1400 square foot apartment so it surprises me that the extreme (new dual band etc) doesnt give me internet everywhere let alone with also having an airport express extending the network. In the back two bedrooms and bathroom which are down the hallway and about 25 feet from the extreme have signal that is so bad that sometimes I cant even read simple RSS feeds let alone download app updates etc on my devices. I have setup the airport extreme to have both 2.4ghz and 5ghz networks and I see them both on all devices except for my iPhone. I have changed the channels for both frequencies by using Tumblr I believe it was and seeing what channels all the networks around me are. My present internet speeds aer 18mbs down and 2 mb up when I am sitting next to the aiport extreme and in direct line of sight. This also holds true on my iMac and laptops in the same room. The laptops in the backrooms get internet and I can do more with them than my iOS devices but even on there I have a hard time streaming etc. I am trying to get internet back there for my sons room, I have a wifi camera that I want to setup in there and so he can use an iPad there (he is 20 months which is why I want the camera) and for my room I have another Roku and Apple TV that barely get signal and are constantly buffering.
I am about to wall mount the exstreme with an airmount and am looking to permanently set everything up so please any suggestions, or hints, or things I need to be aware of please do tell. I would hate to mount everything and run the cables etc and miss something obvious. I appreciate your guys help and thanks for taking the time to read this.
basically
modem = airport extreme, that = (8 port hub)+(wired to aiport express) the express would then put out a wifi network to go along with the aiport extreme.

The extreme is about 30 feet away, hard wired and hanging upside down in my hallway (should it be on the wall or upside down on ceiling?
The ceiling will normally provide the best coverage in a typical room. The whole idea here is to limit obstructions between the AirPort Extreme and devices receving the wireless signal. Wall mounting can work well, again with the idea being to provide a clear signal path to devices.
Another cable is coming from the airport extreme and I want to take that further into the house down the hallway and wire that into an aiport express which would then boost my signal.
This type of configuration will provide the best bandwidth for the wireless network, and also allow you to locate the AirPort Express where it work most effectively. You want to configure what is known as a "roaming" network. The AiirPort Express will be configured using the same wireless network name, security setting and password as the AirPort Extreme. It is mandatory that the AirPort Express be configured in Bridge Mode when you do this.
Apple's instructions for this are in this link:
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT4260

Trying to extend my Airport Extreme network using two Airport Express

Ok, so just an hour ago I had a network working fine that was set up like this:
Modem => Airport Extreme => Airport Express 1 / Airport Express 2
Stupidly I decided to rename one of them, to their specific room location, using Airport Utility 6.3.2, after it came back online it was listed on the utility bliinking yellow, when I hover over it with the mouse I can see the YELLOW DOT next to STATUS: Extend network, if i click on that it gives me the option to A) IGNORE B) EDIT and futher it goes on to say that it CAN NOT EXTEND THE NETWORK, asking me to check if the device is configure correctly/password is correct/or within range.
I have tried everything, reset, factory reset, setting it up again, and it just comes back blinking yellow.
Stupid again: I decided to unplug the other Airport Express, to see if that would help bringing the first one online again, now I have TWO yellow - non-able-to-extend-range Airport express units in the house.
Naturally I am quite frustrated, so any good advice will be very much appreciated, thanks!
The Airport Extreme is version 7.6.4 and serial number 6F8070MYYEW (If that helps anyone), both Airport Express is the latest version.

Hi Bob thanks!l
After about two hours of trying everything, I finally did something that fixed the issue, and since I have been around the block so many times I am actually not sure what it was; but it was a change in the setting on my Airport Extreme, and I think maybe I canged the router mode from DHCP (Is that default) to DHCP/NAT - and after that I was able to bring my Airport Express stations online again.... Weird, and far from the tunrkey solutions I have come to expect from Apple regarding internet connections.
Thanks for helping Bob, althogh I came up with a solution on my own, people trying to help is always very very much appreciated!!
Best
Eirik

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I have a speaker system hooked up to an existing AirPort Express. I just bought another AirPort Express to extend that WiFi signal, but also wanted to extend the existing AirPlay signal as well. I set it up as a WiFi extender and it worked fine; however, it created a seperate option for AirPlay and won't "piggyback" the AirPlay signal off the original AirPort Express. Any help on how to resolve this would be appreicated. Thanks!

I have a modem hooked up to an ethernet hub. From the hub I have an ethernet plugged into the first AirPort Express. In that AirPort Express under the Wireless tab the Network Mode is in Create a wireless network, and under the Network tab the Router Mode is on Off (Bridge Mode). Under the AirPlay tab the Enable AirPlay is checked
The second AirPort Express is just plugged into an outlet with no ethernet hook ups. In that AirPort Express under the Wireless tab the Network Mode is in Extend a Wireless Network, and under the Network tab all the options are greyed out and unclickable. Under the AirPlay tab the Endable AirPay is unchecked. (I have tried checking that box and unchecking the box to see if either has an effect on AirPlay from the original AirPort Express, and either way it does not work). Checking the box just creates a seperate AirPlay channel.
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How can I extend an Airport Express in WLAN mode with an additional Airport Express box

I'm trying to extend the existing WLAN with an additonal Airport Express box. I read through a bunch of comment throughout the communities here but didn't find what I'm looking for.
My actual Installation consists:
A Time Capsule attached to the Internet router which set up my 1. WLAN range
This WLAN has been extended with an Airport Express BOX creating my extended 2. WLAN range
Now I intend the extend the 2nd WLAN of the Airport Express BOX with an additional Airport Express (creating a 3rd WLAN range) but don't find a way on how to set it up correctly.
The physical situation of the location dosen't allow me to add / replace cabeling (Ethernet or similar). If there is any chance I'd like to avoid power-line connections. And, I'm aware of the impacted bandwith on WLAN / WLAN extensions, but can deal with this.
Regards and thanks for any advice

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1) An AirPort Express 802.11n must be used. Check the Model No on the label on the side of the Express. It needs to be A1264. Any other model number will not do what you want.
2) The Express must be configured to "Join a wireless network" and the option to enable Ethernet Clients must be checked.
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Click the Wireless tab below the row of icons
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5th gen extreme does not play well with 1st gen express

I have extended my AP extreme (5th gen) with a 1st gen AP express. Once several devices connect (several iPhones/iPad) the network goes 'bad' after some undefined amount of time (maybe an hour or less). Symptoms are very slow internet access or devices dropping off wifi (except for my iMac which is close to the AP extreme). The AP express may disappear from the AP utility. The solution seems to be to reboot all AP's. I have reset the 1st gen to factory default several times.
All AP's are running latest firmware.
Before I give up and buy a new AP express, any ideas.

Would you agree that something is causing the connection problems?
Teens often hang out on bit torrent sites (videos...(don't ask )...games, other garbage) that demand more than the wireless can deliver. Things slow down and lock up on the network.
Might be a possibility. If things always seem to go downhill after the kids get online, that is probably a clue that they are on very demanding sites in terms of bandwidth.
Until you find out what that is....bit torrent sites.....a nearby cordless phone...other wireless networks or wireless security systems in the area, microwave interference, BlueTooth devices, etc....the problems will continue to repeat.
I once had a similar issue a few years. The wireless would operate fine for 4-5 hours, sometimes a day or two and then suddenly slow down...sometimes crash. I spent days trying to locate the problem....took the devices to the Apple store, where they checked out perfect, etc.
Then, one day by accident as I was working at my desk in the home office, I noticed my neighbor....across the street....coming out of his house talking on his cordless phone whey my wireless network suddenly slowed to a crawl. By the time he got to his mailbox on the street, my wireless had crashed. Now I knew what was slowing down and crashing my wireless.
Fortunately, we were good friends, and he usually remembered to leave the cordless phone inside his house. But, when he didn't, I knew exactly where he was and what he was doing without even having to look out the window.

Help! Im trying to extend the network on my Airport Extreme with an Express

This is probably such a begginers question but it has truely boggled my mind for the last 24 Hours!
I have brought an airport express to extend my airport extreme network. My Airport extreme is the base and is hooked up to my initial Home model from my ISP which works fine.
I have been trying to connect my airport express and am having no luck. I have plugged the airport in but am having no luck locating it on my airport utility (only my actual Airport Extreme shows)
Can someone please help me Ive been here for hours reading on forums trying to sort this out and Im gettin nowhere fast!
The light on the express is flashing orange. I have tried to reset it but there still is nothing showing.
any ideal on what i could do or follow step by step?

Ok, the question is how can i extend the range with
my airport extreme base,
With an Airport Express or another Airport Extreme
I have A netgear WNP802, it
has a repeating feature.
Which won't work with your Airport Extreme
< But i am wanting to have the
netgear and the apple airport extreme talk to each
other so that i can put the net gear in a seperate
room to extend the range of signal. </div>
This is not possible.
How can i do this?
You can't.
Netgear and Apple use different chips which means they won't and can't talk to each other when it comes to extending networks.

Replacing gen 5 (n) extreme with gen 6 (ac) The new one continues to flash amber.

Replacing gen 5 (n) extreme with gen 6 (ac) The new one continues to flash amber.

Suggest that you find out why the amber light is flashing.
Assuming that you have recent model Mac.......Open Macintosh HD > Applications > Utilities > AirPort Utility
Click on the amber dot
Another window will open
If you see an Update button, click it. The light was flashing to tell you an update was available.
Otherwise, look at the setting for Status and click on the small amber dot there. Report on the message that you see.

Can I use Extreme with Time Capsule to extend my gateway router and still use Capsule as "external HD"?

Bought Airport Extreme with Time Capsule version 7.7.2 with 2 Terabytes Feb 2014. It was probably an expensive mistake, but after searching for weeks for a external hard drive, it seemed reasonably priced to just use the capsule as my external hard drive for the price I paid. Spend an hour with Apple Care to get it working-had to use ethernet cord to my iMac OS 10.8.5 processor 2.5 GHz Intel Core i5. I did not "need" the airport as we have a Winstream SAGEMCOM modem/router (Sagemfast 1704) But, I was desperate and about to lose my old external hard drive with literally had 3 computers worth of information on it. It had already "died" once, but got it back, so once I got the airport/capsule and was told I just paid for an expensive HD, I had no time to take it back to get something else-I had to transfer my info right then. We (Apple Care) could not get it to work as a HD wirelessly. It may be because it was being set up for the first time; I don't know. I was hoping I would get a transcript of all done so I could do it myself if needed later on, but when I looked at my email-they didn't do that. (Don't know if that is normal, I was used to other "techs" sending the email.) So now I really want to try to move my airport and "extend" our wifi as it said on the "box" that you could do...
Our Windstream router had to be placed in the lower level at the bottom of our stairs. The stairway is "open" (no door going down the steps). I want to place the Extreme at the top of the stairs so that we can use some things in our offices or not have Netflix on our TV lose connectivity when we all are on our computers.
I know I need an ethernet cord to connect directly with the modem/router to the Airport Extreme. I don't know what I will need to do after I connect it as it was so goofy when we set it up the first time (With the app it would disappear and not show up..) But my biggest concern is will I be able to still use the capsule as my hard drive and will I be able to do it wirelessly? (Even with it connected by ethernet, every day I have to re-connect to it before I can click on anything on the hard drive. It never shows up on it's own as my old HD did. That drives me nuts.) I do back up using the Time Capsule feature as well. I appreciate any help.

I am still willing to plug in the ethernet cord to the modem/router and try it IF I was able to get a step by step instructions..
Connecting the Time Capsule (TC) to the existing Winstream by Ethernet would be the basis for a roaming type network. This type of network allows you to basically "roam" with a wireless client and connect to either router. This, in essence, would provide you with an "extended" wireless network. The Apple routers can work with just about any manufacturers' routers in this fashion.
The keys to having a successful roaming network are as follows:
The routers must be interconnected by Ethernet.
Both routers will broadcast their own Wi-Fi network, but MUST use the same Network Name (or SSID), wireless security type (WPA or WPA2), and wireless password.
The TC MUST be reconfigured as a bridge.
Connect a single Ethernet cable between one of the Winstream's LAN ports and the WAN (circle of dots) port on the TC.
The basic steps are:
Power-down the Winstream.
Perform a "factory default" reset on the TC. Leave the TC powered-down after the reset has completed.
Connect the TC to the Winstream using an Ethernet cable.
Power-up the Winstream. Wait at least 10-15 minutes to allow it to initialize.
Power-up the TC. Wait at least 5 minutes to allow it to initialize. (Note: Since we just reset the TC it will be performing as a wireless router that will be broadcasting an unsecured Wi-Fi network with a Network Name of something like: Apple Network NNNNNN)
Connect your computer to the Winstream's Wi-Fi network.
Run the AirPort Utility. select the TC, and then, select Edit.
Go to the Network tab.
Change the Router Mode option to: Off (Bridge Mode)
Select the Wireless tab.
Verify that the Network Mode option is set to: Create a wireless network
For Wireless Network Name, enter the Wi-Fi network name used by the Winstream.
For Wireless Security, select the equivalent security type that is used by the Winstream. (Note: Use "WPA/WPA2 Personal" if the Winstream is using WPA/TKIP. Use "WPA2 Personal" is the Winstream is using WPA2/AES.
For Wireless Password, enter the same password used by the Winstream.
Select Update and allow the TC to restart.
As far as your external HD, yes you should still be able to use it as before.

Extending a Gen 5 Extreme with an early model Express

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