Extending a Guest Network

Can I extend the range of a guest network of an Extreme Base Station by using an Express?
If I can, (I haven't set up a guest network yet) my existing modem/router is currently set to act as a DHCP server - do I turn this off and use the Extreme as a DHCP server?

Welcome to the discussions!
Unfortunately, it is not possible to extend the Guest network on the AirPort Extreme.
And, also unfortunately if you have your existing router set as the DHCP server, the AirPort Extreme must be configured in bridge mode. In this configuration, the Guest network feature is not available.
So, if you want to use the Guest networking feature, the AirPort Extreme will need to be configured as the main router handling DHCP and NAT.

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How do you extend the guest network on a time capsule to an apple express?

I have a time capsule in my main house with a password protected guest network i set up an apple express in the guest house to extend the networks. Unfortunately the guest house / apple express is only amplifying the main house network. I would like my tenant to join the guest network from apple express. Is that possible?
How do you extend the guest network on a time capsule to an apple express?

I would like my tenant to join the guest network from apple express. Is that possible?
Sorry, but Apple does not allow the Guest Network to be extended in any way.

Extending the guest network

For some reason, the guest network from my Dual Band AirPort Extreme does not show up in the list of networks on my wireless N AirPort Express. The private network shows up. Can I not extend the guest network.
To go one step further, I don't suppose the express could extend both the private and guest networks. You would probably need two for that right?

I have a similar need. Two business customers want to make wireless access available over the entire area of their operation without letting users gain access to their internal network. As has been said by everyone on all the posts I've been on that we can surely extend the Main SSID network but not the guest. Bob Timmons has responded in other posts that this is not possible at this time and that it is not a feature enabled by APPLE. The only solution these customers have is to obtain another IP address from their provider and install a second router on that network. Not quite as elegant as Apple's Airport Extreme where you can monitor both networks from one login.

HT4259 Can a wireless guest network be extended?

Our church has two Airport Extreme Model A1354. Our main wireless network, called FCCAK, is extended just fine throughout the building. Our Guest network, called FCCAK Guest, is not reaching the basement, and it looks like that network is not being transmitted at all from the extender Router. The Airport Extreme Utility has no check box on the guest network Tab to "extend this network." Can we extend two wireless networks using our two Airport Extreme routers? We bought both of these at the same time in March 2010.

Unfortunately it is not possible to extend the guest network from an Airport, it is only possible to extend the "main" network.

Extend both main and guest networks with a 2nd Time Capsule?

I have a 4th generation 2TB Time Capsule set up to broadcast primary and guest networks. I am running out of storage. I would like to increase my storage and I would also like to extend both primary and guest networks.
I currently use an older Linksys router (WRT330N) operating in bridge mode (wired connection to the TC) to extend the primary network, but it does not extend the guest network.
If I purchase a second (5th generation) Time Capsule to replace the Linksys, can it be set up to extend both the primary and guest networks?
From searching the forum, it appears not, but I'd like to confirm. Is true for both both wireless and cabled range extension options?
If I'm not able to extend the guest network this way, I'm inclined to settle for extending the primary network as I currently do and look for other ways to increase my network storage capacity (e.g. by upgrading the drive in my existing TC).

If I purchase a second (5th generation) Time Capsule to replace the Linksys, can it be set up to extend both the primary and guest networks?
Yes, either using wireless or an Ethernet connection between the two Time Capsules, providing that the 4th Gen Time Capsule is running at least firmware version 7.6.3.
A wired Ethernet connection between the two Time Capsules is highly recommended. If you plan to extend using wireless, the second Time Capsule will need to be located where it can receive a very good signal from the first.

Extend Guest Network

My apologies if this has been asked before. I've searched the forum and I can't find any particular posts which explicitly states that this cannot be done.
I have an early 2009 Time Capsule(500GB) which is my main wireless AP which is connected to my Cable Modem. I have set up the Guest Network Access and it is working flawlessly. However there are some major blindspots on the ground floor of my house so I just recently bought an Airport Extreme to extend the network off the TC wirelessly.
As expected my network reception throughout the house is now excellent however it seems that the Guest Network wasn't extended. Is this by design or is it due to my configuration? I really want to extend the guest network as well or else my guests will have to go all the way up to the 2nd floor at least to access my network.

If it is not a bother may I know why this is not possible? Is it due to technology constraints or due to Apple's own decision?
Apple has not provided a lot of detail surrounding the design of their Guest network option on the new AirPorts & Time Capsules. It is believed to be an implementation of VLAN technology ... with (currently) limited administration offerings.
If you have a requirement to provide isolated wireless networks, you would have to look at another vendor's solutions to do so. One example would be the Cisco RVS4000 which provides L2 switching capability.

Does or will the Airport Extreme be able to share the Guest network to a Ethernet port?

Did not know if there was or possibly will be the ability to seperate ethernet ports to make a hardwired guest network?

Sorry, not possible to extend the Guest Network using either wireless or Ethernet.
You might want to let Apple know on any new features that you want to see.
Apple - AirPort Extreme - Feedback

Wired + Private Wireless + Guest Networks

I'm attempting to setup a configuration that I don't seem able to get correct. I have a small wired network at my church with a file server and a couple of dozen users, some of which have laptops and would like to be able to roam wirelessly through the building. In addition, I would like to have an unsecured wireless guest network for visitors which provides access to the internet and does not have access to the file server.
The specifics are a wired 192.168.1.xxx network with a NAT'd DSL modem/router. I have 4 Airport Extreme dual radio N devices. I've tried setting the first Airport Extreme unit to shared IP, the only setting that allows me to also use a guest network, with a private SSID handing out 172.0.xxx.xxx addresses and a guest network handing out 10.0.xxx.xxx addresses. It seems logical to me that I would want to used bridged mode to allow my private wireless uses to see the server, but the Airport Extreme tells me I can not use a guest network with that setting.
With this setup, I can not get to my server by name, but I can get to by IP address. I guess that's not a huge problem since I have such a small number of users, I can add the server IP address to a hosts file on each client. What bothers me most is that I can get to the server IP from the guest network as well as the private network. Am I missing something?
My second point of confusion is when I try to configure the other 3 Airport Extremes to extend the network. The configuration tools asks me which wireless network I want to extend, and allows me to choose only the private network OR the guest network. I thought it should be able to extend both networks simultaneously. Am I mistaken on this as well?
I'm certain I've left out plenty of information you may need to assist so please ask, I will gather what ever I can. Thanks in advance.

Hello muellgre. Welcome to the Apple Discussions!
Unfortunately, Apple does not provide you with very many options when it comes to their Guest network feature. It is basically designed to work with a single AirPort/Time Capsule router in your network configuration.
As you have found out, it will only be available if you have the AirPort configured as a NAT router and not as a bridge. Also you cannot extend a Guest network. I'm actually surprised that you were given this option.
Since you have a DSL gateway upstream of your AirPorts that is performing as your primary Internet router, you would want all of your AirPorts to be configured as bridges. Regardless if you were connecting them all back to the DSL gateway by Ethernet or creating a WDS extended network.
If you go the route of configuring a single Extreme as a router, you will have a Double NAT configuration, which is not bad in itself, but does add some complexity when attempting to share between network segments.
One option would be to reconfigure the DSL gateway as a bridge, and then, configure one of the Extremes as a router to allow it to handle NAT & DHCP services for the network. This will also give you your guest network. You can also extend this Extreme with the others, but not its guest network ... so, overall, this might not satisfy all of your networking requirements.

Does airport express support guest network

i have a client with an airport extreme (802.11n/4th gen) and an airport express (802.11n/1st gen). the express is located in an outbuilding, connected to the extreme via powerline adaptors, and configured as wds (that is, the express broadcasts the ssid of the extreme and just provides a wireless connection since the extreme's signal doesn't reach that far). it works well in terms of having a seamless connection as devices move back and forth between the two buildings.
as this is a business, they have asked to have the guest network functionality on the airport extreme enabled so that visitors can have internet access, but no access to the office network. the airport express in the outbuilding needs to support both networks (office and guest). as i don't have a lot of experience with apple networking products, i thought it better to ask before i start playing with the configuration.
can the express provide connections to both networks in wds mode? if not, is there some way to configure the airports so that both networks are available thru the express and there is limited necessity for user response when moving between the two buildings (that is, if the express has to have its own ssid/dhcp/??? ?
any and all suggestions welcome.

The 1st Gen AirPort Express does not have Guest Network capability, so it cannot be used for the purpose desired by your client.
A 2nd Gen AirPort Express, which does have Guest Network capability could be used to extend the Guest Network that is provided by the AirPort Extreme. This assumes that the AirPorts are running up to date firmware and you are using AirPort Utility 6.x to configure the devices.

Guest network does not work when bridging airport express to extreme

Hello everyone,
i just upgraded my airport extreme 5th gen and airport express (dual band) to 7.6.3 which is supposed to enable guest network extenstion..
my airport extreme is hardwired to airport express (set as bridged mode), eveything works fine with internet connectivity and roaming between the two since both are set with the same ssd name and wpa pass, i have enabled guest network on both to test the new update, which worked fine with airport extreme, then i went downstairs to test airport express guest network which didnt work.. i can see and join the network, IPs are set correctly exactly like airport extreme.
while testing airport express guest network i noticed that i can only browse google website or google search results, youtube website can be accessed too but it will not broadcast youtube videos.. any other website cannot be accessed thru airport express guest network..
since airport express guest network is providing a very limited access i tried enabling vpn on my iphone and managed to get full access with extremely slow speed.. can this be a bug on the firmware, did anyone find a solution???
Thanks

AirPort Extreme is the main base station handlng DHCP and NAT for the network. Normally, I do not use the Guest Network feature of this dual band router, but decided to check out the new firmware.
The AirPort Express is normally connected back to the AirPort Extreme via a wired Ethernet connection so it functions as a separate access point in a roaming network configuration.
I tried out the Guest Network option in the new firmware on the AirPort Express and had no issues. Then, decided to try the Express out as a test connecting using wireless only. I moved it to a location that was about 30 feet and a few rooms away from the AirPort Extreme and enabled the Guest Function with no problems.
I would not expect your setup to work with the Guest Network features, since you do not have an Apple router installed and functioning as the main router for the network. That would be the device that "creates" the Guest Network and other AirPorts "extend" it using either an Ethernet or wireless connection.
Apple used VLAN for the Guest Network feature before and I assume that has been expanded somewhat with the new feature to extend the Guest Network option to other Apple routers on a network.

Guest Network Possible?

New to forum and am a novice at networking. Have wired home network with macs and pcs. Have a wired SonicWall TZ205 firewall but is also my router. Use 2 AirPort Expresses and 1 Airport Extreme as basically access points for wireless connectivity for all the family's phones, tablets and laptops. The AirPorts are all in bridge mode and work great throughout the house. Would love to have a Guest Network for my kids' friends who come over with their devices without giving them access to our home network. Won't I get a "Double Nat" confict if I configure the Extreme in router mode? Is Guest Network even possible while still maintaining my SonicWall as the router? Appreciate any help.

The AirPorts are all in bridge mode and work great throughout the house. Would love to have a Guest Network for my kids' friends who come over with their devices without giving them access to our home network.
Unfortunately, the guest network feature will not function correctly when the AirPorts are in Bridge Mode......unless your main router is an Apple device that is configured to provide a guest network. Then, the other AirPorts that are in Bridge Mode can extend the Guest Network, just as they do the the main network.
Won't I get a "Double Nat" confict if I configure the Extreme in router mode?
Yes, you will....and there is still no guarantee that the Guest Network would work in this setting....it might, or might not. You would then have to connect the two AirPort Express devices to the AirPort Extreme if you try this.
Is Guest Network even possible while still maintaining my SonicWall as the router?
No, unless you are willing to try the Double NAT setup to see if it might work.

Guest networking issues

On my old Airport Extreme I could not connect it down stream from my main router AND use guest networking, it had to be one or the other.
Has this been addresses in the 5th gen AE?

Im not wanting to extend my guest network.
My main router (a $1200 Cisco business VoIP VPN router) is 50 meters away from my house in a different building. I have a network cable run from this main router into my house and it's there, in my house, that I want wifi and guest access.
Ive had several other brand routers in my house, currently the E4200, and they all work fine down stream of the Cisco and with guest access, but I'd like to keep it all apple and use time control limits for my kids iPads etc but E4200 limits this to 5 devices.
It seems strange that apple is the only brand that can't do this?

Time Capsule behind a guest network

Hi
I have a wired network with 3 airport exstream 5th gen base stations which provide a guest network for visitors.
Because of the guest network, I cannot deploy them in bridge mode, only double NAT.
Wireless clients cannot backup to my timecapsule. I assume this is a routing issue from the double NAT.
So, what ports do I need to open to make the timecapsule discoverable?
Thanks
Andy

I have a wired network with 3 airport exstream 5th gen base stations which provide a guest network for visitors.
Because of the guest network, I cannot deploy them in bridge mode, only double NAT.
Apple's firmware update of 7.6.3 allows you to "extend" the guest network in conjunction with AirPort Utility 6.2 or later, so the AirPorts that are extending can be configured correctly in Bridge Mode......so everything will be on the same network.
Devices will all communicate correctly, and backups should occur smoothly.
http://support.apple.com/kb/DL1617

Guest Networking solution to workaround an older non-dual band AExtreme?

When I first set up my brand new (month old) Time Capsule (TC) to Extend a Wireless Network on my pre-existing Airpot Extreme (AE-2007 version) Ethernet connected network (simple modem), the Guest Network tab showed up during my AirPort Utilities (AU) adjustments. Yet, shortly after giving a name and password to the Guest Network the following dialogue appeared:
"DHCP Beginning Address:
The DHCP range you have entered conflicts with the WAN IP address of your AirPort wireless device" (showing: "10.0.1.2") and
"DHCP Ending Address:
The DHCP range you have entered conflicts with the WAN IP address of your AirPort wireless device"
(showing: "10.0.1.200").
There was no actual apparent conflict of addresses while otherwise my wireless network was working fine until then. Since I could not figure out how to solve this issue, I chose to revert (button) the action.
Now, although my wireless network is working fine, the Guest Networking tab is gone for good from my AU as well as my settings for Guest Networking is non-existent.
After searching for solutions herein the community forum, I figured that my AE in NOT a Dual Band version capable of the Guest Network option which AU had first presented me with.
MY QUESTION NOW IS:
If I switch to a new wireless set up having my brand new TC acting as the main base connected to the simple modem (Ethernet), leaving it to "Share a Public IP Address", while using my older AE to "Extend a Wireless Network", will I be able to get the Guest Network tab back in AU (to set up via TC) a wireless Guest Network?
Thanks in advance for your help!

MY QUESTION NOW IS:
If I switch to a new wireless set up having my brand new TC acting as the main base connected to the simple modem (Ethernet), leaving it to "Share a Public IP Address", while using my older AE to "Extend a Wireless Network", will I be able to get the Guest Network tab back in AU (to set up via TC) a wireless Guest Network?
Yes. Your TC is a dual-band model, so you'll have the option of creating a guest network as long as your TC is set to "Share a Public IP" and "Create a wireless network."
EDIT: Note that you won't be able to wirelessly extend the guest network. You'll still be able to wirelessly extend the main network.

How to extend secure network and guest network.

Sorry if this has been covered but I couldn't find it.
I have an Airport Extreme running the 7.6.3 firmware. Once Comcast gets their act together it will be running off a static IP. I want to wirelessly extend my guest WiFi and my secure WiFi. What do I need to get this done? Do I need to get an Express for each network? Or can another Extreme repeat both networks? Eventually I hope we will have Cat5 running to the repeater's location but that could be a long way off.
Thanks!

I cannot get the web page to open when I do a search on the SMC8014, but it appears that this is a modem/router or gateway type of device.....which will not allow the Guest Network feature to be enabled on the AirPort Extreme.
I did find this, which confirms that the SMC is a modem/router or gateway....not what you want.
http://www.speedguide.net/routers/smc-smc8014-biz-business-cable-gateway--534
The solution is to find out from SMC or your Internet Service Provider whether or not the 8014 can be configured to operate in "Bridge Mode".....which would then allow you to configure the AirPort Extreme to operate as the main router on the network. This would allow the Guest Network option on the AirPort Extreme to be enabled correctly.
Or better yet.....ask your ISP for a simple modem.......not a modem/router or gateway type of device.
So assuming this is all compatable (or I get compatable equipment), I can extend both networks with 1 express or 1 extreme?
That is correct.

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