Extending network issue

attempting to extend network using 2nd airport extreme
have reset the 2nd AE
airport utility is "grayed out & says no no new base stations disovered
any help out there for this?

Are both AirPort Extremes the 802.11n "square" version with rounded corners?
Did you perform a Factory Default Reset on the AirPort Extreme?
Resetting an AirPort Base Station or Time Capsule FAQ
Are you trying to "extend" by connecting both AirPort Extremes together using an Ethernet cable...or.... are you trying to "extend" using wireless only?

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Extending Network Issues

So I have an aiport extreme and two airport expresses. All were set up and working fine and then something happened, my husband swapped their locations, then returned them, possibly changed settings and now both express stations are set up to "join network" rather than "extend" and we aren't getting reception in areas we used to.
When I try to change the Wi-Fi Mode on either one of the two express stations to "extend a wireless network", I get a message that the network "isn't set up to be extended". I have actually confirmed that the box in front of "allow this network to be extended" is in fact checked.
Since I'm assuming in order to actually extend the range of my extreme base station, I should be selecting "extend" rather than "join", does anyone have any suggestions on what may be causing this problem or a solution?
Thanks

Power off both AirPort Express devices.
Make sure that the AirPort Extreme is working correctly and that the option to allow the network to be extended is enabled.
Power off and then power back on the AirPort Extreme.
Power up one AirPort Express for a minute or two
Hold in the reset button for 10-12 seconds and release
Allow a full minute for the Express to restart to a slow, blinking amber light
On the iPhone home screen, tap Settings
Tap Wi-Fi
Look for a setting of Setup a New AirPort Base Station
Tap on AirPort Express
The utility will take a minute to analyze things, then suggest that the Express be configured to extend the AirPort Extreme network
Type in a device name that you want to call the AirPort Express.....example....Express1....or ExpressDen, etc.
Tap Next
The utility will configure the Express automatically
When you see the message of Setup Complete, click Done
Then, configure the other Express the same way, assigning a different device name to keep things straight.
Make sure that both AirPort Express devices are closer to the AirPort Extreme than they are to each other.

Packet Loss When Extending Network?

Hi there, everyone.
I just purchased the Airport Extreme AC after upgrading to 802.11AC devices in the home. On its own, the Extreme AC performs flawlessly - consistent connections, max speed my ISP provides, no-lag, no studdering, no packet loss. I was dissapointed with the range of the device at the far ends of my home, so I set up my previous generation Airport Extreme to extend the network.
It extends the network fine, speeds are about half of what I get at the source, but the issue is that when it is part of the network, I experience packet loss, anywhere from 3% to 8%. I've tested this multiple times, unplugging, testing, replugging, testing. It happens both wirelessly and through ethernet. The issue is no question caused by the previous gen Airport extending the network.
Any help here would be great!
Setup:
- Motorla Surfboard SB6141
- WAN into Airport Extreme AC
- Previous generation Airport Extreme to extend the network, no special settings.
Don't be afraid to use techincal terminology to help me. I can follow and understand the majority of it, as I'm pretty into all of this.

I'm not aware of anything that has changed in the 802.11ac version of the AirPort base stations that would induce the packet loss that you are seeing with an extended network over using an earlier generation. I am assuming, of course, that you are extending another Apple wireless router ... correct?
Typically I would recommend that you would review the placement of the extending base station to be sure that it is in the optimal spot to reproduce the signal with the greatest amount of bandwidth possible. (Ref: This AirPort User Tip)

How can I add a security password to an Airport extended network?

I have an Airport Extreme network extended with an Airport Express and an older Airport Extreme. Everything works fine as is. I want to add a security password to the network but when I do, the two extending base stations appear in Airport Utility with an alert triangle next to them and when I select each of them, it asks if I want to "foget" that device. I do not want to forget those devices as they are extending the range of the network, I just want a password on the entire network for privacy. How do I accopliish this while still maintaining the extended network?

Conversely, set the security feature for each of the extending base stations first, then set the security for the main base sation. The extending base stations will go offline. Then back on once the main base station is configured with the same password as the two extenders.
(Found this on an older post about the same issue.)

My devices not automatically switching between Airport Extreme and Airport Express in extended network

I have setup an extended network in my home using an Airport Extreme and an Airport Express. The Extreme is connected directly to the FiOS modem and the Express is being used as the extender. The nework is setup fine, but my devices (MBA, iPhone, iPad) are not switching base stations when the signal becomes poor on the one it's connected to. For example, I am upstairs with my MBA and a great signal as I am connected to the Express. When I move downstairs to where the Extreme is setup, the Wi-Fi connection becomes poor even though I am litterally sitting next to the Extreme. To force it to connect to the Extreme, I need to shutoff the Wi-Fi on the MBA and turn back on. At this point, the MBA will connect to the Extreme with a excellent signal.
Any thoughts on why the MBA is not automatically switching?
Thanks for the help!
Brian

The first troubleshooting step for any kind of network "issue" is a complete power cycle of the network. This gives everything a "fresh start" with new connections.
Power off the entire network.....all devices....in any order you want
Wait a minute or two
Start the modem/router first, and let it run a full minute
Start the AirPort Extreme next and let it run a full minute
Keep starting devices one at a time about a minute apart until the entire network is back up
Check the network again with the MBA and report on your results
Do not worry about the iPhone and iPad....they are pretty much hopeless as far as automatically switching from one access point to another....but the MBA should if it is working correctly.

Family base and extended network

Every time I enter an extended network, I am unable to make a call. I receive calls and can text. When I try to make a call I get message 'Please reenter 10 digit number...cant not press *67 or *82. I called tech support and was told that the Family Base is restricting the calls and I would have to unsubscribe to it in order to make calls. I did this and sure enough, could make calls. I think there has to be a better way to fix this than to have to continually subscribe and unsubscribe to Family Base every time I go into an extended network. Is anyone else having this problem? Is there a different solution rather than what I listed?

I also have the same problem and just found out it was Family Base causing it. I think it's ridiculous that Verizon hasn't fixed this issue. So I either can't make calls or can't manage my data usage? Unacceptable. Can someone from Verizon please respond? Is there a fix planned for this? Possibly when Lollipop rolls out?

7.6.4 killing extended networks?

I've got a 5th gen Extreme serving as my router and dhcp server. Attached to it via ethernet I have a 3rd gen Extreme and a 2nd gen Express. All were running firmware 7.6.3. This config had been stable for a long time. I upgraded all of the units to 7.6.4 and that stability went away. It appears like the router would die - would not pass packets via wif and claimed it lost connection to the internet. I swapped the 5th and 3rd gen Extremes just to see if there was a unit problem. No luck. I downgraded the main Extreme - no luck. Once I downgraded all of the units the network regained its stability.
Anyone else seeing strangeness with 7.6.4 and extended networks?

I would like to chime in with my similar experience.
My dual-channel setup is Airport Extreme (4th gen) and Airport Express (2nd gen) (wired to the Extreme) in addition to an Airport Express (1st gen) wirelessly extending the 2.4 ghz SSID.
As soon as I upgraded all access points to 7.6.4 I started having intermittent dropouts and delays on what appeared to be all my devices (including iPads and iPhones). By trial and error I singled the culprit out to be the 2nd gen Airport Express. Digging deeper, I found that every time my laptop (with Intel 6300 AGN) was associated with that specific access point I got predictable ping timeouts for 5 seconds every 10-20 seconds ad nauseum. It would sometimes start out ok for a minute or so, then almost like clockwork it would start with the regular timeouts.
The solution turned out to be to downgrade to 7.6.3 for the 2nd gen only (I rinsed and repeated 4-5 times, making me pretty sure).
Other actions I tried (unsuccessfully) to resolve the issue:
Remove the 1st gen from the network
Move the access points around the house to rule out local interference issues
Downgrade the Extreme only, while keeping the 2nd gen at 7.6.4
Connect to the 2.4 ghz SSID (same result)
Admittedly, I did not bother trying to set the 2nd gen as the only ISP gateway/wireless device instead of having it wired to the Extreme. Mostly because of this: One of my co-workers brought a laptop with the same Intel wireless chipset home with him to perform the same tests on his Apple network. Same result - ping timeouts at similar intervals. He is out of luck though - his single Extreme-AC router has no previous firmware to downgrade to...
Now this might seem anecdotal, but it would appear that the newer devices Airport devices are susceptible to this specific issue while the older ones are home free. Anyone got any theory they can share as to what might be causing this? Any glaring oversight in my research?
Message was edited by: Vibbers - Correcting typo

When I try to extend network, doesn't find my network

Hi, My Airport Extreme is connected to my modem via ethernet. When I use the Airport utility and try to extend my network, it only gives me the option to extend a different network - I'm assuming a wireless one in my neighborhood - but does not give me the option to extend the network for the modem it is connected to.

Apple cannot extend non-apple wireless networks.. you create a wireless network with the same name and security settings if you want a roaming network.
Extend will result in severe network issues and apple may have finally modified the airport utility to stop you doing it which is a good thing.

Iphone will not connect to airport express extended network - macbook and ipad will - Help

Iphone will not connect to airport express extended network - macbook and ipad will without problems.
iphone will connect to base station no problems, I've restored settings and started again but still the same, the iphone picked up the network for the last couple of months, but not now ?

I'm having the same issue. My AExpress used to give a good signal strength on the far side of the house extending he network created by my Extreme. However, I've noticed lately that my iPhone does not receive the same strong signal it once did. AE has a green light, I've rebooted it, and my Extreme but there is no change in signal strength. Other than the green light, how can I tell if the Express is working if I don't get a good network signal?

I Think the Missed Calls is a network Issue

I went 21 days on ED05 and now today out of the blue it had 3 missed calls
I am starting to believe it is a network Issue and not a problem with the phone
I have not Installed any apps It just out of the blue started missing Calls

Just today, my wife's Fascinate was sitting within 10 feet of our recently acquired VZW Network Extender and had a missed call at 5:29pm. The only reason she noticed the missed call was because she had a clock alarm set for 5:30pm. Her phone has the ED05 update, was recently set back to Factory Default and only has 10 third party applications installed. She also has to charge her phone at least two times per day.
Unrelated to the software issues with the Fascinate, her charging port is flaky and requires you to wiggle the cable to get it to charge. Sometimes it will disconnect even while setting on a flat surface, which then makes it stop charging.
She just said to me, "The whole thing is just irritating to me." I really hope they get this resolved soon or it might be time to start looking else where for cell service.
Then there's my Fascinate that has worse battery life after we received out Network Extender. Doesn't make sense.
- Tim

"extended network" error with airport express

i have my time capsule set up in my living room as the primary, and since there are several concrete walls in my house, i need to extend the wifi connection in order to get signal from my room which is located at the very end of my house. I've had my airport express placed near the doorway of my room which should be getting a clear signal from time capsule in the living room.
everything works fine for few days, and the blinking amber light started going off on the airport express. and from the airport utility it shows 1 notification on my airport express. It said an error of "extended network", if i choose to ignore it, the indication light turns back to green, but then i wont be able to connect to the internet.
is there some kind of settings need to be adjusted? please help~~~
my settings on airport express:
Router Mode: Off (Bridge Mode)
Connect using: DHCP
Configure IPv6: Link-Local Only

i've tried to plug the airport express literally right next to the time capsule, and it still showing the "extended network" error message. so it can't be the signal strength issue.
Help please....
additonal info:
my time capsule (primary) :
Connect Using - DHCP
Router Mode: DHCP and NAT
DHCP Range: 10.0.1.2 to 10.0.1.200
my airport express (extension) :
Connect Using - DHCP
IPv4 Address: 10.0.1.10
Router Address: 10.0.1.1
DNS Servers: 10.0.1.1
Router Mode: Off (Bridge Mode)

Can I hide my network name in an extended network?

I now have 2 Time Capsules, and have them set up so as to extend my wireless range. With a single Time Capsule, I was able to hide the name of my network using the Airport Utility, but that option doesn't appear to be present with an "Extended Network." Am I missing something? Is there some way to hide the name of my network?

Hiding the wireless name is useless as a security measure.. any wireless utility will still show the name when it connects.. and for extend wireless it causes too many issues.. Note.. hiding ssid is actually wrong on the original IEEE code for wireless.. it is included in routers as a pretend security measure.. but using WPA2 AES.. ie personal in applespeak.. with a decent length non-dictionary passkey is unbreakable by normal means.. at this point.

Slow transfers in an extended network

I have two Airport Extremes (Gigabit Ethernet). One is connected to a Firewall and DSL modem and is the "master". The other ("slave") extends the network. I'm using 802.11n only 5 GHz.
There are some resources (a NAS among others) connected to the slave using gigabit ethernet.
Using a MacBook Pro connected wirelessly, I'm trying to copy files to/from the NAS. If I'm connected wirelessly to the slave it works fine, but if I'm connected to the master it is extremely slow.
I've had this setup before with 802.11g Airports. I expect slower performance when the packets have to go via two base stations, but not this slow. A file that takes 2 minutes to copy when connected to the slave, takes 30-60 minutes when connected to the master.
Is there some known problem with "extended" networks?

I'm having the same problem, I think. I just started another thread before I found yours (sorry), but here's my post:
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I just recently sold my old AEBS 100 units and replaced them with 2 AEBS gigabit units in hopes of having a fast wired backbone to eliminate as many bottlenecks as possible.
Both AEBSgig units are set to N only, 5 GHz, firmware 7.2.1, with the following configuration:
"Office AEBS" all wired (at Gigabit speeds) to:
- MacPro
- ReadyNAS NV
- MacMini
"Living room AEBS" wired to: Media Center PC (100 MBPS Ethernet port)
- configured to "Extend a Wireless network"
Airport Utility reports the connection between the 2 wireless AEBS is 270 MBPS.
With this setup, I get extremely poor performance from the extended part of the network, whereas I really had great performance with exactly the same configuration using the older AEBS (100MBPS) models. In fact, the configs are using the same configuration file, so nothing has changed settings wise.
Examples:
1. From the Media Center PC (wired to the extended AEBS), watching a video file streaming from the ReadyNAS (wired to the Office AEBS), I get stuttering.
2. Copying a file from the Media Center (Living room AEBS) to the MacPro (Office AEBS) has a throughtput of around 500 k per second!!! Max 1 MB/sec in burst but mostly 500-800 K.
3. Copying from the ReadyNAS (Office AEBS) to a wired MacBook attached to the living room AEBS has similar transfer rates.
Again, I recall there being NO such issues when using the same setup but the old 100 speed AEBS.
Is this a problem with the current AEBSgig units? Is it a firmware issue (I'm at 7.2.1 on both AEBSgig).
* Steve

Wds vs extended network questions

little background first...task is to setup a closed WPA2 wireless network consisting of 4 mac minis (duo cores/10.4.10 fully updated) and 3 or 4 AEBS' on the 5GHz band. One AEBS will be connected via ethernet to an existing router (DHCP) while the others need to extend the network. I've had the masses working exceptionally well as a WDS (main/relay/remote) and as an extended network (main/ext/ext/ext) in a test area but have a few questions i've been unable to find answers to:
1. As an extended network, how many AEBS' can be setup to extend the network? (as bridges)
2. Any way to enable/select the 5GHz band for a WDS setup?
3. All the mini's except for one with Airport Admin 5.1 installed join the network automatically after sleep, shutdown etc. The fix on the support page works but is this issue possibly due to the new airport admin util? I'd like to keep the WPA2 security in place even tho it's a closed network and have a local machine able to administer these things if possible.
cheers for a quick response.

shaker440, Welcome to the discussion area!
1. As an extended network, how many AEBS' can be setup to extend the network? (as bridges)
I'm sure there is a maximum but I don't know the number.
2. Any way to enable/select the 5GHz band for a WDS setup?
WDS is an 802.11b/g feature and therefore not supported when using 5 GHz. However 802.11n has a new "extend network" feature.
I'd like to keep the WPA2 security in place even tho it's a closed network and have a local machine able to administer these things if possible.
Is this a question? WPA2 is great security and you should use it. A "closed" network is a deception and only fools you into thinking it adds any security. The SSID/Network name is still broadcast between any connected client and the base station. Therefore the network name is easily detectable.
Any machine can be used to configure the AEBS at any time. There is no machine designated as the controller or admin.

HT4259 With extended network, which device do I connect to?

I set up my Time Capsule as my base station and extended the network using an Airport Express. My question is, when I am logged onto the base station, will my computer automatically select whichever signal is stronger, the time capsule or the airport express... OR do I need to manually select whichever one is stronger?
I am guessing it will automatically select but I have not read this anywhere and would like to confirm.
THANKS!

will my computer automatically select whichever signal is stronger, the time capsule or the airport express...
Yes, that's the whole idea behind having an extended network.

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