Extending network with Express via Ethernet(Complicated)

Hi all
I have an AirPort Extreme(Base Station). Now, I would like to extend my network by using an AirPort Express. To get a maximal signal, I've put an Ethernet-cable in the room where the Express will be placed. How do I have to install this Express now to be an extension of my current network without getting its connection wirelessly? The Express should get his connection from the Ethernet-cable which I put in the room.
Simplified: I want the Express to be some kind of a base station without creating a new network.
I think the solution might be making my two AirPorts both bridges, but this didn't work out so well when I tried this.
Thanks a lot to the one who can help me out!

Hello Momomo92094. Welcome to the Apple Discussions!
With the AirPort Express Base Station (AX) connected to the AirPort Extreme Base Station (AEBS) by Ethernet you only need to do the following:
o Reconfigure the AX as a bridge.
o Use the same Network Name (SSID) for both wireless networks.
o Use a radio channel on the AX that is at least 3 channels away from the one used on the AEBS.
o Use the same wireless encryption type and password on both devices.

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I'm having some difficulty that's driving me bananas!
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