Extending vs creating a wireless network on second Time Capsule
I have two TCs in different rooms connected via Ethernet.
When the second one was plugged in it did some form of auto setup that didn't work. So walking through the setupon the second TC, I've ended up with both TCs creating a wireless network with the same name.
Should I switch the second one to extend a wireless network instead of create? Or can I just leave as is? Or will leaving it as is create problems at a later date?
Actually if both TC are connected by ethernet you have the best possible setup.. and both should create a wireless network..
Just read the Apple doco on roaming network for the setup.. but it is pretty much as per what you have done.
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT4260
The one thing different I would do.. which does depend on spacing.. ie how much signal you get from TC1 at TC2, is auto wireless channels can choose adjacent channels which is wrong.. these still overlap and interfere with each other.. so for roaming network I always recommend fixed wireless channels.. pick out of 1, 6, 11 two different ones.. these are the only channels that do not overlap at 2.4ghz.
5ghz is not as much of an issue.. unless you have brand new AC version TC. Due to its limited range, unless the two devices sit next to each other they are unlikely to have issues.. nevertheless picking different channels is not hard.. and reduces wireless voodoo. (All wireless contains voodoo.. it works or doesn't work according to something other than science. Chanting with beads and rattles.. and offering chicken livers to the gods of ether).
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I have created a Wirelss Network at home with the Time Capsule and would like to connect this network to the Internet.
I can't use LAN Cable to connect to it anything becasuse I usually use the WiFi that runs through my building.
Can I connect the Time Capsule to the WiFi hotspot somehow so that all computers on my network have Internet access and if so, what do I need?
I need this done because the computers can only be connected to either the WiFi network or to my Time Capsule Network at any given time.
Or is there a way to be connected to both networks simultaneously?
I have two PC's and two Macs.
Thank you for any support and I apologise for my ignorance. I am not too good with networking.
I have tried the silliest of things like connecting a router to the TC only to then realise that the TC had an inbuilt router.
I tried connecting a USB WiFI adapter to the USB Port on the TC but it doesnt detect it that way apparently.
Please help!I have a kinda same problem @ https://discussions.apple.com/thread/3531642
Please reply (somebody)!
JeremyZ -
I have connected my time capsule to motorola SG6580 modem via ethernet. I have a wireless network on the motorola and a wireless network from the time capsule. I get duplicate IPs error messages (no connection) sometimes when trying to connect devices to the wireless network. How do I fix? Sometimes devices cannot connect to the network because of conflicting IPs. I look on the Motorola and every device has a unique IP assigned but occasionally a device has taken the IP of another device. I have been writing down all the devices and the IPs they have been using. It happens more with PCs than Macs, ipads or iPhones.
If the Time Capsule is set up correctly in bridge mode, then it is the responsibility of the Motorola modem/router to provide the correct IP address assignments for all devices on the network.
Check to insure that the Time Capsule is correctly set up to operate in bridge mode as follows:
On your Mac, open AirPort Utility
Finder > Applications > Utilities > AirPort Utility
Click on the Time Capsule icon, then click Edit in the smaller window that appears
Click the Network tab at the top of the next window
Insure that the setting for Router Mode is configured to read "Off (Bridge Mode)"
Once you have confirmed that the Time Capsule is configured correctly, everything else is the responsibility of the Motorola modem/router as far as network routing and IP address assignments for devices.
If you continue to have IP address issues, then you should contact the Internet Service Provider (ISP) that provided the Motorola device to you and ask them to fix the issue. -
Extending my wireless network using a Time Capsule (U-Verse)
I am trying to extend my wireless network but every time I make a change on my Time Capsule I lose all connections and have to start over....
Here is my setup:
My internet provider is AT&T U-Verse
Router - 2Wire (I do have access to the router)
Connected to the router is a netgear 8 port switch used for all of the wiring in the house.
In my family room at the wall jack I have attached a Cisco 8-port switch.
To the switch are several AV devices including my 3TB Time Capsule.
My wireless setup is controlled by the 2Wire router.
What I am trying to do is to use the Time Capsule to extend my wireless network so portions of my house will receive a stronger signal.
I attempted several do configurations but after reboot it either can't find the network, I lose my Internet (from the time capsule) or some other error.
I usually have to connect a cable to the TC and my MacBook Pro to reset everything back to what it was.
Can anyone offer me any suggestions on how to configure this properly?
Thank you
ElliotOpen AirPort Utility, select the Time Capsule and click Manual Setup.
Click the Time Capsule tab at the top of the screen and check the settings on this page for correct name, Time Zone, etc. My TC looks like this:
Next, click the Wireless tab to the right of the Time Capsule tab.
The Wireless Mode is set to Create a wireless network.
Wireless Network Name would be the exact same name as your 2-Wire wireless network.
If the 2-Wire is using WPA2 Personal security, make sure the Time Capsule is set the same.
Enter the same password as the 2-Wire for the Wireless Password
Settings should look like this:
Next, click the Internet icon, then click the Internet Connection tab
Connect Using = Ethernet
Connection Sharing = Off (Bridge Mode)
Click Update to save the settings and allow a minute for the Time Capsule to restart to a green light
Very Important....
Next, power off the entire network....all devices, 2-Wire, Time Capsule, computers , printers, etc.
Wait a full minute
Start the 2-Wire first and let it run a full minute by itself
Start the Time Capsule next the same way
Keep starting devices one at a time until the entire network is back up
You should be in business now -
How can I extend my wireless network with the Time Capsule?
I recently bought a Time Capsule and set it up, backed up all my data, etc. It is currently plugged in to my AT&T Uverse wireless router via a LAN CAT5e cable. I am wondering if it is possible to wirelessly extend my preexisting network with the Time Capsule so I can move it somewhere else in my house where it can still pick up the signal but extend it. And if possible, how so? Or does it ALWAYS have to be wired'connected to my router for the internet to work?
Thanks in advance.I am wondering if it is possible to wirelessly extend my preexisting network with the Time Capsule so I can move it somewhere else in my house where it can still pick up the signal but extend it.
Sorry but no. Extending using only wireless would require that the Time Capsule connect to another Apple router that is producing the wireless network.
Another way of saying the same thing is that you must have two Apple routers to be able to extend the signal wirelessly. -
Creating two seperate networks with 2 time capsules?
So i currently have two time capsules. The first one is bridged with my dsl modem and is acting as my internet gateway and backup for my main imac and macbook which are connected wirelessly as well as a file server with addition external harddrive connected via usb.
I want to connect an additional timecapsule via ethernet and use it to create a seperate wireless network that allows my guests, kids macbook and any of his hooligan friends to connect. The second time capsule will allow my kid to back his macbook up. I dont want this network to be able to access my up stream network with my main imac and macbook because I will not be issuing poeple access to it except myself and will lock it down with MAC address filtering.
I am worried as my kid or any guests I allow to access my network can or will be able to reach my main computers and I want to prevent that. Is this possible with two time capsules?Now if this setup will reduce the NAT doubleing issue on the ps3, xbox and apple tv's thats good?
Should work as long as you understand that these devices are connecting to the Guest Network on your "main" TC. How well wireless will work going through all the obstructions is open to question.
You will also be sacrificing half of the bandwidth on your "main" TC when you enable the Guest Network feature.
There will still be a Double NAT for devices that are connected to TC #2.
My next question is how do I allow everyone to see my ethernet printer? Plug it into TM#2 ethernet port?
Not sure what you mean by "everyone".
If you plug it into the TC #2 Ethernet, devices on the TC #2 network will be able to see it, but not devices on the "main" TC network. Reason....TC #2 is on a different subnet than TC #1......unless you want to setup TC #2 in Bridge Mode.
If it were me, I would password protect all computers and devices on the "main" network, except the printer. Then, connect TC #2 in Bridge Mode and call it a day.
Users on TC #2 will be able to "see" other devices on the TC #1 network, but not connect to them unless they have the password for the device. -
Problem with Airport wireless network utilising a Time Capsule. No internet connection?
Right, I have an Apple Mac and I am creating a Wireless network with an Apple Time Machine. I have had both devices for approx 2 years, they have be fine to date - until I now have the following issue: The Wirless network has been created and can be connected to but that network isn't then connected to the internet. IN have checked with the Cable network provider Virgin and there is a network without proplem provided to the Modem - I have also connected an ethernet cable to direct to the Mac and connected to the www, no probs. I have also asttempted to reset and set up my time capsule / airport again howver the same problem arises. When I go to network Diagnostics I Have a green light for the following; Airport, Airport Settigns, Network Settings,Network Settings, ISP then an amberlight for Internet and server.....Please assist!!!! Is this an ISP address issue. Welcome any help, Thanks in advance. Jimbob
Sounds like chaos..
How many outlets are we talking about and what specific equipment?
Do you really need routers on every one? How many clients do you use?
Basically there are three non-overlapping channels on 2.4ghz.. using more than three routers in the house is pointless as they will just interfere with each other.. range on 2.4ghz should be sufficient to reach at least half a normal house from one AP. If not there are better high power routers available.
And there should be just one device that is the main router.. all the other routers should be bridged/ wan bypassed so they are merely AP and switch. Otherwise NAT will cause issues to devices stuck behind a secondary router. -
Why can't I extend my wireless network on my Time Capsule?
So I'm having trouble extending my wireless network in my house with my Time Capsule. I just recently moved into an apartment and had Time Warner install a modem with a bult in router. I then tried to install my TC upstairs and attempted to extend an exisiting network, however my current network doesn't appear on the list of networks to choose from. Why is this?
*I've read that you cann't extend a network if the original router you're extending from ISN'T an apple router? I'm having a hard time believing that, since all network providers provide you with their own equipment. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks!Connect your Time Capsule to your router with an Ethernet cable. That is the only way to "extend" a network created by a non-Apple product.
*I've read that you cann't extend a network if the original router you're extending from ISN'T an apple router? I'm having a hard time believing that, since all network providers provide you with their own equipment.
All network providers provide you with the cheapest possible junk. Ask TW how to disable their router and use their equipment strictly as a modem. ISPs have different names for this such as "bridge mode" or "transparent bridging". That way, you can use all the Time Capsule's features. -
How can I expand my wireless network with a Time Capsule and Airport Express?
My entire house is wired for ethernet access (2 floors). I have a Time Capsule on the 2nd floor that reaches the entire house except for one room.
In this one room I have an ethernet port plugged into an Airport Express.
The problem I encounter is that I have two separate wifi networks with two separate names. I realize I can extend the wireless network on the 2nd floor to the 1st floor but I can only do this wirelessly to my knowledge, and the entire problem is that the signal doesn't reach the front room. Also, there is really no place in-between that the AE can be placed to extend the reach. The building is concrete and steel, I think that has a lot to do with the problem.
My question is: Can I have two wireless routers (connected to the same home network via ethernet) broadcast the same wifi network? I also have a SONOS system that further complicates things, I'm afraid. Would it help if I drew some sort of diagram?
Thanks!Your network is not working as you describe.. or I have misunderstood the layout..
What is the broadband type? Modem is where? What is the main router?
From your screen shots the main router is the airport express that covers one room which seems wrong.
Why isn't the TC the main router? or both bridged.. if you go back and look at the apple document.. one or both apple routers are in bridge mode..
You are having issues with setup .. half of which is caused by v6 airport utility.
What OS are you running? Please install 5.6 utility.. do it.. do it now!!
Easy for Lion.
http://support.apple.com/kb/DL1482
Messy but possible for ML.
How to load 5.6 into ML.
1. Download 5.6 for Lion.
http://support.apple.com/kb/DL1482
Click to open the dmg but do not attempt to install the pkg.. it won't work anyway.
2. Download and install unpkg.
http://www.timdoug.com/unpkg/
Run unpkg on the desktop.. it is very simple.. drag the AirPortUtility56.pkg file over to unpkg.. and it will create a new directory of the same name on the desktop.. drill down.. applications utilities .. there lo and behold is Airport utility 5.6 .. drag it to your main utilities directory or just run it from current location.
You cannot uninstall 6.1 so don't try.. and you cannot or should not run them both at the same time.. so just ignore the toyland version.. the plastic hammer.. and start using 5.6.. a real tool. -
This started when I changed the port for cable modem access. If I shut everything down- router, MacBook, and iPhone and restart the router... the device I turn on first will connect to the internet. The second device will read the wireless network but if you attempt to connect to the internet- it states no internet connection is available. Is this a security feature I enabled unknowingly? Very frustrated.
You are using your TC in the wrong way.. in bridge and it has to be in router mode.
Simply make sure you connect SB5100 to the WAN port of the TC.
Go to the airport utility, manual setup, internet tab on the bottom and choose connection.. ethernet.. and down the bottom connection sharing.. share a public IP.. sorry I don't have the exact wording as my TC is in pieces being fixed.
Update and then shut off everything again, particularly the modem.. start everything in order.. modem.. wait 2min.. then TC.. wait 2min then all the computers .. they will get an IP from the TC. With correct address and gateway.
What was happening is the first device to turn on was capturing the one and only public IP. The rest get local IP without connection. -
How to connect a printer to a wireless connection using airport/time capsule
How do you connect a Cannon MP620 printer to the wireless network with my time capsule/airport? It was set up before but I've had to redo all the settings with a new Time Capsule and now the printer isn't working. Can't remember how I set it up before. Didn't seem that hard back then.
Thanks!So you plugedd the printer into the time capsule usb right?
You need to re-add the printer in the system preferences one more time because the location has moved. -
Network mode: Create a wireless network vs. Extend wireless network via ethernet
Can some one tell me the difference between configuring AirPort Utility : Network mode: Create a wireless network vs. Extend wireless network via ethernet? I connect my cable modem to my Airport Time Capsule to a network switch via ethernet. The switch contacts to three Airport Express (AE connects to two Apple TVs via Ethernet) and another TC. Which is the best mode to configure my network?
ThanksCreate a wireless network is used only when the Airports have an Ethernet connection. If you are using the setup wizard.....the setting will read Extend using Ethernet during the setup. If you go back in using AirPort Utility to check the Network Mode setting.....you will see that it is really Create a wireless network.
Extend a wireless network is used only if an AirPort is connecting to another AirPort using wireless.......not Ethernet.
Every one of the Airports on your network must be configured to Create a wireless network.
If you do connect an Ethernet cable to an AirPort that is already set up to Extend a wireless network......that will create a massive feedback loop that will crash the network until you remove the Ethernet connection to the device.
The bottom line here might be if you are using the setup wizard, it will make the correct choice for you. -
I have a closet with Wired connections from all over the house terminating in it. I also have the internet modem and a switch in this closet. My old setup was a netgear in the closet creating a wireless network and also feeding the Ethernet ports all over the house. In my room, I had an Airport express (a month old) bridging the wifi to make the wifi network larger. The Express was hard wired from the wall and my mac mini was using it's wifi (printer was plugged into other ethernet port). Everything was working great.
Fast forward to last week. My Netgear died. So, I bought a time capsule. My plan was to move the Express to the closet and have it create the wifi network and also then run cat 5 cord from express to the switch to feed all the wired wall plugs. Reset it and set it up to create the wifi network as well as DCHP NAT. Wireless was running great on it. Then I plugged in the Cat 5 in the second Ethernet Port to the switch. Wifi stopped working and none of the computers would connect using wired connections either. They would see a 'network' but nothing would work. I would unplug the Cat 5 feeding the swtich and the wireless would start working again. Plug the Cat 5 back in and wireless would stop.
So I thought I would try the Time Capsule in the closet and see if I could get it to work. Pretty much the same thing, except at this point I figured out if I went in and told it NOT to create a wifi network the wired portion worked fine and all the wired computers in the house worked fine. Of course, then I didn't have Wifi.
I'm not clueless when it comes to networking, but I can NOT figure this out! Can either the Time Capsule or Express Create the wifi network AND also feed the data to the switch for all the wired computers?
To simplify this is what I want my end result to be. I prefer the Time Capsule to be the wireless connection extender, but if I have to have the Express do it, I'm fine with that.
1. Express in the closet creating the wifi network as well as feeding the data to the wired connections via my switch.
2. have the Time capsule in my room at the opposite end of the house plugged into the hard wired connection to extend the wrieless network as well as have wired connections such as my printer and my Mac Mini.
If I can get #1 to work, I don't think I'll have any problems with #2. Help!I have an equally complex setup with a managed switch actually but I have never seen the TC have this kind of issue.
What I do notice is you have changed the TC from defaults.. you are using a non-default IP range.
I have run across issues like this where people move things from default.
I would like you to start over.. factory reset the TC. That will set it back to default router mode.
Do the min setup on the TC..
1. Change all names from what you were using. That includes the TC name and wireless name/s
Make them short, no spaces and pure alphanumeric because that is the correct way to network. Apple default names with spaces and apostrophes are fundamentally bad.
2. With just the TC plugged into the switch.. and a single computer connected by ethernet. Power cycle the whole network.. this allows the switch to clear all the old MAC address.
3. Test on the computer just ethernet. Turn the wireless off.
The computer must use dhcp and must get an ip from the TC.
It has to get the correct Router.. ie Gateway.. I wish apple could stick with proper network terminology.
And it must get same address or valid DNS server address/es.
If it fails.. please plug ethernet directly to the TC.. bypassing the switch.
You should get the standard IP addressing and internet connection.
If not please post the screenshot from the Mac of the network preferences showing the ethernet setup.
I need to see what address it does get. I need you to make sure the ethernet is the TOP of the list. So rearrange the order of network connection. With the airport off it should just go to the top of the list.
If it appears to be working .. but a browser cannot connect, open a terminal and ping an internet address.
Ping the actual gateway address the ISP gives you and ping the ISP dns address. -
The Airport Extreme is a 4th Gen unit. I just want to keep the TC wireless name to go further through my house.
The Ethernet connection will be from one of the LAN <-> ports on the TC to the WAN port (circle of dots icon) on the AirPort Extreme.
Then you can use AirPort Utility - Manual Setup to configure the AirPort Extreme as follows:
Click the Wireless tab located just below the row of icons
Wireless Mode = Create a wireless network (Not "extend a wireless network" as many users incorrectly think)
Wireless Network Name = Same name as your TC network
No check mark needed next to "Allow this network to be extended"
Radio Mode = Automatic
Channel = Automatic
Wireless Security = Same setting as the TC network
Wireless Password = Same setting as the TC network
Confirm Password
Click the Internet icon
Click the Internet Connection tab
Connect Using = Ethernet
Connection Sharing = Off (Bridge Mode)
Update to save settings and restart the entire network
Computers on the TC network will now be able to move to the area where the AirPort Extreme is located and not have to "switch" networks. This is known as a "roaming" network. -
My iMac doesnt' see my Canon MP560 wi fi scanner ever since I created a wireless network in my house. Can't find a way to change whatever settings i need to to connect the scanner. help.
Well let's see if we can help you get set up. Have you got any 2.4 GHz cordless phones in the house and if so try unplugging them and do a hard reset of the express.
1. unplug the express
2. press the reset button
3. while pressing the reset button plug in the base station
4. keep holding the rest button till you see 4 green lights flash
you may have to hold it for 30 seconds or so
if this doesn't work try plugging the express in right beside the computer and then going through the airport setup assistant
Good luck
Let me know
iMac G5 iSight 17" Mac OS X (10.4.4)
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