Extending wireless network from BoB modem using Airport Extreme

Hi,
I am using BoB with wired and wireless internet for my house.
I recently got Airport Extreme but am having difficulties extending my wireless network.
I have tried turning the WDS off and on the BoB as well as turning the AE to bridge mode etc.
I have managed to set up 2 wirless networks using both but still unable to extend my wireless with BoB.
Can you please help?
YOGI_OZ12

If you are trying to "extend" your wireless network....using a wireless connection to the AirPort Extreme.....it might be helpful to understand that an AirPort Extreme can only do this if you have another AirPort Extreme, AirPort Express or Time Capsule producing the wireless signal.
Apple routers cannot "extend a wireless network"....using wireless only....from non-Apple routers.

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I am trying to set up and extend a wireless network in my house, but it’s not working right. I have two Airport/Capsule units in the house:
2TB Time Capsule (Dual-Band II)
1 Airport Extreme (Dual Band)
I have the Verizon Fios router as my gateway to the internet, and also as my DHCP server. I have also tested the ethernet ports in my house to verify that they work, and that I can get a DHCP-issued IP address.
Now, my Verizon router has WiFI, and it’s still on. I am not using it though except to troubleshoot. So far as I understand, this should not cause a problem.
Base station setup
So I setup the TC to Create A New Wireless Network, on the ethernet network it’s on (Dlink switch plugged into Verizon router). I set it up in Bridge Mode (as opposed to having it dole out IPs, since the Verizon router does this already). The TC gets a valid IP, and my wireless device connect to it without a problem. I have checked “Allow this network to be expanded” under Wireless settings.
Extended station setup
The AE Dual-Band is plugged into the Ethernet, and is reset to Factory Settings. I name it “Airport Extreme 2” and I chose “I want Airport Extreme to join my current network.” The other two options are: “I want to create a new wireless network” and “I want to replace and existing base station or wireless router with Airport Extreme.”
I chose to “join,” I select “I want to connect Airport Extreme to my network using Ethernet to extend my existing wireless network.” The other options are to disable wireless entirely, or to “wirelessly join my current network.” On the next page it asks me to select the device or network that the Airport Extreme will connect to using the Ethernet. I set it to the Time Capsule.
Results:
Access near the Airport Extreme 2 is incredibly slow. Speedtest shows I am getting less than 1Mbps. Worse yet, my mail client won’t connect. It just times out.
What I had hoped was that the AE would connect via Ethernet to the network, and just bring the wireless network to the other side of the house. Instead it almost seems as though it is just re-amplifying the TC’s signal. Otherwise, why is performance so bad?
Thanks to anyone with some insight here!

Hello Kennuff. Welcome to the Apple Discussions!
Since you have the ability to connect all of the routers by Ethernet, there is no need to configure the Time Capsule (TC) & 802.11n AirPort Extreme Base Station (AEBSn) for a dynamic WDS (aka, extending a network). This option is only when the routers do NOT have an Ethernet connection between them.
Instead, you want to configure the TC & AEBSn in a "roaming" network. I suggest starting by performing either a "hard" or "factory default" reset on both.
Next be sure that both the TC & AEBSn are on the same Ethernet subnet coming from the Verizon-supplied router.
Configure the TC & AEBSn as follows:
AirPort Utility > Select the TC or AEBSn > Manual Setup > AirPort > Wireless
o Wireless Mode = Create a wireless network
o Allow this network to be extended: <not checked>
o Radio Mode: <leave the default or if you require a specific mode make sure both routers are configured the same>
o Wireless Security: <configure both routers the same>
AirPort Utility > Select the TC or AEBSn > Manual Setup > Internet > Internet Connection
o Connection Sharing = Off (Bridge Mode)

I have a Cisco/Linksys WRT-54G wireless router and 2 Airport Extremes (the small ones that plug directly into the wall). Is it possible to extend the network from the router using these two AEs? I have a DVD player and Ext HD plugged into the router too..

I have a Cisco/Linksys WRT-54G wireless router and 2 Airport Extremes (the small ones that plug directly into the wall). Is it possible to extend the network from the router using these two AEs? I have a DVD player and Ext HD plugged into the router too. Any ideas? I'm guessing the only way is to do what I've seen in these community pages which states that it can be done but it will drop the bandwidth by 50%. Thoughts?? Thanks!

The Cisco/Linksys WRT-54G was one of the very few routers said to be compatible with Apple's implementation of WDS (Wireless Distribution System) settings.
The info that I have on file indicates that only the WRT-54G versions 4 and under were compatible, so that would be one bridge to cross.
Even if you find that your Cisco/Linksys might be the right version, Apple never published instructions on how to configure the Express devices with other manufactures, so users were left to their own devices to try to figure out how to get things working. Apple's instructions to connect to other Apple devices are in the link below:
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If you were hoping to use 2 Express devices in this type of configuration...even if it works...the bandwidth penalties will be extremely severe.
The first Express drops the bandwidth (and speed) on the entire network in half and the second halves everything again. So, the result, in effect would be a "g" wireless network running at 25% speed. Few users would consider installing this type of network.
At this point, it becomes one of those things where the fact that you might be able to do something does not mean that there would be much value in doing so. But, it is your decision to decide if you want to try to proceed.

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Would be great if anyone can help. I have setup my Second Generation Airport Extreme to extend the network of the Fifth Generation Airport Extreme. The 2nd generation Airport extreme seems to automatically get set to use 5GHz vs 2.4GHz. I would like to force it to use 2.4GHz so my older devices can connect to it. Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks,
Mike.

Enable the option to assign a different name to the 5 GHz network on your 5th Gen AirPort Extreme.
Then, the 2nd Gen Extreme will only "see" the 2.4 GHz network, and extend that signal.
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Hello -
I've seen many topics about extending wireless networks here, but none seems to resolve the issue I'm having. I currently have a setup where a DSL cable modem is connected to a Time Capsule and I need to extend this network to another room using an AirPort Extreme.
I live in a very old apartment in Brazil and the walls seem to block the signal from one room to another, hence the need to extend it. Since wireless signal is very weak between rooms, I bought a Belkin powerline AV500 so I could connect both Time Capsule and AirPort using the electrical power at home (just installing a regular Ethernet cable between rooms is not an option).
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Attached the screenshots of both Time Capsule and AirPort Extreme configurations.
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Time Capsule:

Hello JuliaApple. Welcome to the Apple Discussions!
You have several ways to configure both base stations for what you are trying to do.
The simplest would be to configure the Time Capsule (TC) to "join" (AirPort Utility > Manual Setup > Wireless tab > Wireless Mode = Join a wireless network) your existing 802.11n AirPort Extreme Base Station (AEBSn). In this type of configuration the TC would perform as any other wireless client and not perform as a router. It will; however, still allow for both backups and sharing USB devices attached to it.

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Hello all,
I have 1 brand new Airport Extreme, 1 somewhat new Airport Express (802.11n) and 3 older Airport Expresses and I'm at a loss at how to use them all together to get wireless coverage in our apartment.
For some reason I just can't seem to get the older expresses to extend any network. I started with the Extreme as the base station and set the radio mode to 801.11g and used the Airport Utility to set up an Express to extend the network but it didn't seem to actually extend the signal but rather it just joined the network. I was hoping to use the Extreme and the 3 older Expresses to set up an 802.11g network, but now I'm not sure how that will work.
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The second option is only available when ALL base stations are 802.11n models. The first option is available when either ALL base stations are 802.11g models or you use a mix of 802.11g & 802.11n models.
Since you have a mix, you should be aware of two significant drawbacks of the earlier static WDS: 1) The overall network can only operate in the 802.11g radio mode. That effectively nullifies have any 802.11n devices, and 2) For each base station added to the WDS, the overall bandwidth (speed) is cut in half ... so with a total of five base stations, you would get around: 54 / (2 x 2 x 2 x 2) = 3.375 Mbps! I hope you don't plan on doing any video streaming, especially not HD video.
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Currently, I can read the network there on whqat they have now but something is misconfigured and the manufacturer is being of little assistance.
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After spending 2+ hours trying to extend son's network via A Express, can this be done straight from his uVerse Motorola 1ZVDC modem? I can get the express to show up, but will not work/extend network, and doesn't show up in wireless menu; only in airport utility :-(
Now I saw an old post which says express cannot expand network from non-apple modem. Is this correct? I don't think he wants to pay for Extreme + express. I am certain that, at my other residence, I am using an express directly paired to my uVerse. Here, main residence, I have 3 paired with Extreme.
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You cannot use extend to other brands.. it is apple proprietary method of repeater.
What if I plug the express directly into the modem? Of course, probably won't extend network, which is my objective.
You can always plug in by ethernet and setup the express to create a wireless network with the same name and same credentials as the existing wireless.. this is called roaming network and is far superior to extend.
If ethernet does not allow you to place the unit in the right place.. you can try EOP adapters. (homeplug in the US).
If I give him my old extreme, what are advantages to new one?
You can extend wireless by plugging the extreme into the main modem.. setup wireless to create a wireless network.. the Express can extend an apple wireless network.
However please do understand the restrictions.. extend will halve the speed at best.. at worst it will be too slow to be usable. And the range can still be poor.. apple do not make wireless powerhouses.. they are average at best.
He had bought a cheap extender which has to be plugged into USB on computer (wouldn't this be the modem?). I was positive the express would do the job.
If it is a universal extender it should work but needs to be located where the signal is still good.. USB is probably just for power.
If the computer cannot pick up wireless signal then the extender cannot work either.

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We've gone over this in the other thread.
If the Time Capsule will be connecting using wireless only, everything depends on the quality of the connection between the AirPort Extreme and Time Capsule.
The quality of the connection will be affected by the distance that the Time Capsule is located from the AirPort Extreme and any obstructions in the signal path.
If you have a ceiling between the AirPort Extreme and Time Capsule, then you should expect the signal arriving at the Time Capsule to have lost 30-40% of its bandwidth (speed). So, the Time Capsule can only repeat the weaker signal that it receives.
Other walls or other obstructions like heavy furniture, large mirrors, etc will also affect the wireless signal as well as cordless phones and other wireless networks around you.
If you are lucky enough to have line-of-sight between the AirPort Extreme and Time Capsule, then the wireless connection between those devices can work quite well. Few of us have this luxury, and must settle for significant compromises in performance.
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As you might imagine, there is virtually no signal loss in a wire, even up to 300+ feet or 100 meters.

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I have a 2nd generation extreme setup as my main wireless network. I also setup one 1st generation extreme as well as one express units to extend the range and signal strength.
When I setup my iTV I see the signal extreme to just three (3) bars without the additonal units powered on. When I power and configure the other two units to extend the network, I do not see any difference in signal strenght in my iTV. Thus when I am sending info to the iTV, the music and slide show are rerky and erratic. not smooth at all.
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Thank you.

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Kappy wrote:
You need to configure the AEBS or Time Capsule to extend an existing network from the main wireless router. Then run an Ethernet cable from an AEBS LAN port to the Ethernet port on the computer.
You cannot do that if the main router is not apple.. I suspect it isn't.
I am trying to extend an office wifi, called "NetworkA" to my desk area. The signal comes from a Mac Pro (which is hard wired to our network) that has internet sharing enabled.
This is really messy..
Plug the airport directly into the same network the Mac Pro is in and use double NAT (that is all the Mac Pro is doing).
Then extend it with the other airport.. you can extend as long as you use two apple routers.

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