External Activity FRL for Subcontracting

Hello All,
We are configuring the Subcontracting process for MM. In the Accounting Assignment for OBYC, we have assigned a GL Account to FRL. This GL Account, however, was set as a Cost Element in KA01 previously. Now whenever the user posts Goods Receipt with reference to Purchase Order the system is asking us to supply a Cost Center for the GL Account but as we all know this entry is generated so we cannot enter the Cost Center.
We set the GL Account as a Cost Element since it is related to Subcontract Charges. My question now is whether there is any configuration (except OKB9 since it will not work in this case) for us to assign the Cost Center to the Subcontract Charge GL Account.
Or shall we just create another temporary GL Account for Subcontracting charges and then carry allocation during Accounting.
Can anyone please help.
Thanks.

Hello
I have the same issue and tried using a cost center assignment at PO item level. However, when doing this the GR cannot be posted against the storage location...
So I am afraid that OKB9 is your only option.
Regards
Aude
Edited by: Aude Tricca on Jun 8, 2010 3:55 PM

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