External editing with PSE 6

Hi, When I select external editing, Aperture 2 creates a TIFF image and transfers to PSE6. When I am finished editing it offers me the option of saving the image outside of Aperture but does not transfer me or the image back into Aperture. This worked fine with PSE3 and Aperture 1.
Am I doing something stupid?
Thanks
MST

Try simply closing the file that you've edited in PSE6. It should ask you if you want to save. Select save and the file should close and take you back to Aperture.

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