External editor, PSE8

When using Edit with Adobe Photoshop Elements.app, the file converts to 8 bit. Is that correct? I'm shooting RAW with PSE8. I didn't realise this was a problem til I read of quality loss.
Thanks

You need to first do the set-up in iPhoto prefs and navigate all the way to the Support Files folder.
- Open iPhoto and choose iPhoto >> Preferences.
- Select the General tab.
- Click the Edit Photo menu and select In Application.
Then navigate to:
Applications/Adobe Photoshop Elements 13/Support Files/Photoshop Elements 13 Editor
Highlight the editor application (Photoshop Elements 13 Editor not Adobe Photoshop Elements 13) and click Open
Then close iPhoto Prefs.
You should now be able to edit normally from the iPhoto Library e.g.
Double-click to edit in iPhoto editor.
Control (right) - click on a thumbnail to edit in elements editor.

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I have a problem that I can't seem to solve and I'm hopeful that a post here can get me closer to some resolution. I recently started using Bridge for noise reduction and PS for high pass sharpening. The downside is my work flow is now shot full of holes! I have Bridge as my external editor; I make the edits in Bridge then do a high pass sharpen as well as any other edits I might choose to make in PS. If I need to, I flatten the image if I have layers. It is here that my problem begins.
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I use Bridge as editor because once there, I go into "camera raw" to process images.
So now you're bringing a third app into the equation. Bridge, ACR and Photoshop are all individual applications. If you're not using an app like Aperture then Bridge might be the front end for the other two, but in the case you describe it has no role.
Another thing to think about: ACR ("camera Raw") is for processing Raws - which job you are currently doing with Aperture. You're not sending Raws to Bridge/ACR... You're sending tiffs.
I think you need to rethink your workflow somewhat. I'm not sure you've grasped what the various tools actually do.
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Right now, if I want to edit a file in an external editor, Aperture makes a version first. While I understand the design reasoning, I need to override this behavior in two specific cases:
First, sometimes I want to use Adobe Camera Raw to process a RAW file. Aperture should allow me to do this directly from the application without exporting the master and loading it from the Finder.
Second, and this is more important for me, I'd like Aperture to send original layered PSD files as imported back to Photoshop for editing. Aperture will import my layered PSD files without difficulty. If I export the master, I get the original file. But if I try to open it in an external editor (Photoshop) from Aperture, Aperture makes a flattened intermediate version. That's not what I want - and it destroys my non-destructive workflow by flattening all my layers in Photoshop. What I'd like is an option to have Aperture send the master layered PSD file to Photoshop, allow me to edit it, and perhaps save the changes back in Aperture as modifications to the original layered PSD file.
There's an interesting semantic issue. "Non-destructive" is more than just not touching the original files. It's allowing for a workflow which can be rolled back to previous states. My work in Photoshop uses layers, masks, adjustments, and channels to achieve this. I need Aperture to allow me to keep using Photoshop in a non-destructive way, while enabling me to edit my RAWs and other flattened files in the powerful ways that Aperture offers.

Managing layered PSD files in Aperture
For those who absolutely must manage layered PSD files in Aperture, here is the way to do it...
1- In your original PSD file, HIDE ALL LAYERS above the background layer
2- IMPORT this PSD file into Aperture
3- CREATE A VERSION in Aperture by choosing to edit externally in Photoshop.
4- Back in Photoshop OPEN THE ORIGINAL PSD file along with the new version
5- LINK all the LAYERS in the original PSD file and DRAG them TO the new VERSION (holding the shift key down so they pin register)
6- SAVE the new version in Photoshop
7- Back in Aperture your version is now an exact layered copy of your original which will not flatten when reopened from Aperture into Photoshop.
Obviously this process will be rather tedious if you need to deal with hundreds of layered PSD files, but if you are in that situation that implies you already have a workflow and a storage strategy that works well for you. So why change, especially to Aperture?
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This is a hockey workflow and frustrating especially when I then do a quick fix in Aperture itself and then want to edit the image again externally in GIMP.
I just want to edit the RAW image in my external editor when needed, yet do my folder management within Aperture.

I was afraid of that...
I don't use lightroom or Photoshop. I used to be a Photoshop user until the cost became so prohibitive. I have since switched to using GIMP as my eternal editor, it's native files are .xcf (musch like the Photoshop .PSD) but Aperture doesn't support .xcf files and I doubt they ever will since GIMP is a free open source tool, rather than a commercial product.
I have been playing with 3.01 now for a few days and finding that the heal tool and burn and dodge tools seem to be improved. Even though in GIMP they were destructive to the original RAW file those items were noticeably better in the external editor.
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I am using both PSE 13 and Lightroom 5. When I use Lightroom as an external editor and save the photo, it shows up in PSE13 as an edited file but does not look any different. Why doesn't it appear edited?

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People who have Photoshop, but don't have Lightroom, need ACR so that they can use Raw files. Without ACR they could do nothing with those (they may also like having ACR so that they can work on other kinds of image using the same kinds of adjustments and techniques, as are used with Raw files).
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ACR does not, strictly speaking, even need to be installed for this external editing to happen. In fact, not even PS needs to be - since a different image editor can be used instead, while still retaining the Adobe Raw conversion etc.
Lightroom "subcontracts out" specialised external tasks, in this workflow, but is still your "main contractor": the image is otherwise located, viewed, managed, adjusted/presented and output entirely using LR.
So IMO we can divide image processing into:
operations that involve pixels and layers and layer masks and adjustment layers etc (of the kind done inside Photoshop)
operations that involve parametric edits (of the kind done in ACR where you are not using a Lightroom based workflow; otherwise, done inside Lightroom)
When PS is called in, that's because those tasks are impossible or unsuitable to do in Lightroom. But those tasks can't be done in ACR either - by definition, since LR and ACR have exactly the same image processing "feature set".
Lightroom is irrelevant to the Bridge + ACR + PS workflow. This workflow requires both your PS and your ACR to be current enough, to support your Raw format etc.
ACR and Bridge are irrelevant to the LR + (image editor) workflow. It is in this case, only LR which needs to be current enough to support your Raw format etc.
RP

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Can you open images normally in Photoshop Elements? I would recommend including this information as well as which verson of iPhoto and Mac OS you are using to the Photoshop Elements forum. It might also possibly be a problem with iPhoto but the users in the Photoshop Elements forum should better be able to determine where the problem lies.

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Situation
I own Lightroom 5.6 and I'm experienced. I've just bought Premiere Elements 13 and I'm a video-editing virgin (be gentle with me). I've spent a day experimenting, reading, watching videos and I'm still stuck (I've tried reasonably hard to solve my own problem).
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Resolution sought:
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2. What are the precise settings should be for each field?
3. If I configure it correctly, what does good look like: what should I expect to see happen in Premiere Elements?
I don't know if this is relevant: MacBook Pro 16GB 2.8Ghz i7, 750GB SSD (i.e. plenty of space, plenty of horsepower), OS X 10.9.5
I also don't know if I this is the right place for my question (Adobe directed me here) so please don't shout at me if I've come to the wrong place (I expect if I get no joy here, when I post it to an LR forum, they'll shout at me too :-)
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Phil
You wrote
1. Is it possible to use Premiere Elements as an external editor in LR5 ?
I do not have Lightroom 5 or other version of it. I did do some work on an earlier version tryout of it.
And, I believe now as then, that the answer to your question is No. Bottom line, if there is integration
to be found between Lightroom, it is between Photoshop Elements and the Elements Organizer, not the Premiere Elements Editor.
The following is the extent of my travels through Lightroom with focus the Slideshow Module.
Lightroom 4.1 Slideshow Module Visited - Elements Village
Good suggestion to get the Lightroom view point at the Adobe Lightroom Forum.
Best wishes
ATR

Open in external editor -- original color space workaround

I was frustrated--like other's whose posts I've read--by the fact that when opening files (tiff, jpeg, psd) in an external editor they are all converted to the Adobe 1998 rgb space.
I am working around this comfortably and by using some Automator actions that I got from Ben Long's Complete Digital Photography site: http://www.completedigitalphotography.com/?p=414#more-414
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The Open in Photoshop folder has attached from Automator the following actions from the default Finder suite: Open Finder Items and Move to Trash.
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Yes you could do that.
I was part of the alpha/beta test group for Adobe CS2. Most of my work was with scripting and automation, especially for Bridge. I did have a very good dialog with Bruce Fraser, Seth Resnick and other testers whose opinions are as good as fact in my book.
The consensus was that most digital cameras--certainly the pro models--had a color gamut substantially larger than Adobe RGB (1998). Note that ACR give the option of developing an image into sRGB, Adobe RGB, Color Match RGB, or Pro Photo RGB; 8-bit or 16-bit. That's the way I want it in Aperture.
If you use the perceptial rendering intent (this is almost certainly what Aperture is using as its undisclosed default setting) then you will compress the wider gamut of the camera into the smaller Adobe RGB (1998) gamut. If in Photoshop you used the Convert to profile command and choose the perceptial rendering you would probably expand the color gamut back out a little bit. Why bother? Aperture really should have options for open in external editor like the very good export version settings.
I have in my Aperture library a bunch of 16-bit grayscale scans and some CYMK files that seem to be working fine with the workflow above and Automator actions. (Lab files won't import.) I wouldn't want to go through the convert to Adobe RGB (1998) and reconvert to proper space with these files. My workflow is letting my store these files in Aperture and still edit in native color spaces in Photoshop with minimal effort for a round trip. I like it.
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Has anyone heard or read or know who to contact regarding iPhoto allowing more than 4 pictures to be exported at one time when using PS Elements as an external editor?
Currently you can only transfer a maximum of 4 pictures at a time from iPhoto to PS Elements. Is this also the case if Aperture is used as an external editor?
I general take 50-100 pictures at a time and first like viewing them in iPhoto before I begin to edit them w/ PS Elements. With this many pictures it is quite cumbersome getting them all to PS Elements.
I have thought of eliminating my us of iPhoto altogether but love it's organizational features and do not what to lose that.
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Midgetviking
If you want to be able to send more than 4 to PSE, then
http://www.apple.com/feedback/iphoto.html
is the way to let them know.
I don't think that Aperture will work as an external editor , it's not a PSE substitute, more iPhoto on serious steroids. It might be worth exploring if it can send more than 4 shots to PSE at a time. Check on the Aperture forum.
Regards
TD

Opening a clip in an external editor

It's my understanding that I can open a clip from the FC Pro timeline in an external editor like Motion or After Effects. However, whenever I try to do this in Final Cut I end up with the WHOLE clip (not just the portion of it as designated by in and out points). Motion, on the other hand brings in just the piece of the clip to be affected. I'm still learning Motion and know After Effects really well so I'm trying tp figure out if I'm doing something wrong.
Also, once I'm done in Motion or After Effects do I have to EXPORT the movie or is there a way to for the FC Pro timeline to recognize the changes done to it in the external editor without EXPORTING A quicktime movie.
Thanks for your help.

You are going about it the wrong way.
For Motion, you mark IN and OUT and go to the FILE menu and select EXPORT. EXPORT TO MOTION will be an option.
Unfortunately it doesn't work like that for AE. Motion and FCP work together in a very unique way...a way that Apple designed its Suite to interact. For After Effects you need to export your clip as a self contained QT Movie, import that into AE, then export the changes as another self contained QT file...and import that into FCP.
Shane
"There's no need to fear, UNDERDOG is here!"

Error -50 when using an external editor

Having finally graduated from iPhoto 2, I found some "interesting" behavior in iPhoto '08...
iPhoto objected when I tried to save an externally edited photo back into its slot in iPhoto -- nothing lost, just an error dialog and the edits were not applied. Since it was repeatable, it made me curious.
When you choose external editor to edit a photo in iPhoto 8, the first thing iPhoto does is stash a copy of the original (and activates the "Revert to Original" menu item for that photo). Just editing in iPhoto 8 doesn't do any of this until you accept the changes -- that's an important distinction, because if you change your mind with the external editor (and make no edits, or cancel them without saving), that stashed copy stays in the "modified" folder.
For all practical purposes, it's "forgotten" unless you happen to choose "Revert to Original", in which case, the extra photo is unceremoniously purged. Now, if you don't think about purging that forgotten copy and later decide that you actually do want to edit that photo in an external editor after all, iPhoto will again stash a copy while your external editor is opening. It gets stashed in the same folder that already has the previously stashed (and forgotten) image file. If the file were overwritten, there would be no big problem, but it does not get overwritten, and you can't have two files with the same name in the same folder. So the finder appends a "_1" to the end of the file name -- and THAT sets up the problem. When you finish editing and save the file back to iPhoto, you will be (unintentionally) trying to add a file to your collection that iPhoto doesn't know about. The filename change to avoid a conflict in the folder is not reflected in the iPhoto 8 database.
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Brie Fly:
I tried to replicate that using Photoshop and could not. When starting an edit with PS a file is created and remains is I abort the edit in PS. However, if I edit again with PS and save the original modified file is changed with no other file being created.
What 3rd party editor are you using? The only time I get a _1 file is when I move a file to an event that has the same file name as a file already in that event.
What system are you running and are you at iPhoto 7.1.1, iLife Support 8.1.1 and Quicktime 7.3?
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TIP: For insurance against the iPhoto database corruption that many users have experienced I recommend making a backup copy of the Library6.iPhoto database file and keep it current. If problems crop up where iPhoto suddenly can't see any photos or thinks there are no photos in the library, replacing the working Library6.iPhoto file with the backup will often get the library back. By keeping it current I mean backup after each import and/or any serious editing or work on books, slideshows, calendars, cards, etc. That insures that if a problem pops up and you do need to replace the database file, you'll retain all those efforts. It doesn't take long to make the backup and it's good insurance.
I've created an Automator workflow application (requires Tiger), iPhoto dB File Backup, that will copy the selected Library6.iPhoto file from your iPhoto Library folder to the Pictures folder, replacing any previous version of it. It's compatible with iPhoto 08 libraries and Leopard. iPhoto does not have to be closed to run the application, just idle. You can download it at Toad's Cellar. Be sure to read the Read Me pdf file.

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