External Editor versions

If I create a "new version" or "new from master", AP2.1 appends "Version x" to the end of the version name. But when I use external editor (PSE) it doesn't. Can this be changed to add "Version x" to the version sent to PSE?

Yes, it should only delete the edited version if you have the edited version and only the edited version selected and not as just the main selection with the others in the stack selected. It should also delete any versions made from the edited master, but should leave the original master and it's versions intact.
I just tested this on my system and it did as expected.
Just take a sample image and import it with the sole intention of opening with the external editor and then selecting just the externally edited and deleting it. I know you're sure you had just the edited master selected, but are you sure sure?

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External editor version disappear

When I edit in any external program the new SAVED version is shown in Aperture(with the dot) as it should be
However when I quit Aperture and reboot etc.....the external edit versions are NOT there?
Images edited from within Aperture are not affected.
Initial enquiries suggest a corrupted library file?
Anyhow...major issue that I need to resolve.

[email protected] wrote:
> Are you using multiple catalogs, and if so have you set the location
> for presets to "Store presets with catalog"?
Hi,
I'm using a single catalog and yes, I'm storing the presets with the
catalog.
Patrick

New AP3 Version Has Muted Colors when Using External Editor

Hi All,
I'm having a frustrating problem. I just noticed that files that I've edited using an external editor (PS5) come back to Aperture with significantly dulled colors. At first I thought it was something that PS was doing. Then, I realized that this was happening to the new versions created by Aperture even before the external editor was completely launched.
Right when you select "edit with Adobe Photoshop CS5.app" Aperture creates a new version - right then I can see the colors being dulled/muted. I don't for the life of me know how to avoid this from happening.
My export settings are:
- 16 bit TIFF
- DPI: 300
- External editor color space: Adobe RGB (1998)
Any help in this would be greatly appreciated.

I'm taking a look now. It's perplexing (to say the least).
There is definitely a shift in the created-for-external-editor Version (I'm seeing the same color shift, almost exclusively in the middle- and high-tone cyans, but not quite to the same degree as you). I using my usual settings of 16-bit and "No Profile Selected".
Although the shifted version shows in Aperture, it does not show in PS-CS5. In other words, the shift is somehow removed when the file is opening in PS. When the file is closed in PS, the shifted version remains in Aperture.
The histogram is very different for the Versions in Aperture.
The color values shown in the Loupe and in the color meter (which shows in the Info Pane at the top of the Adjustments tab of the Inspector) are +the same+ for the Versions, though the histograms are different and the images are dissimilar.
I am seeing -- as best I can tell; it's clearly time to take notes -- inconsistent behavior. Sometimes a shifted Preview will not have a shifted full view. When I send a previously edited in PS Version back to PS, sometimes the shift disappears.
If I have the time later I'll make a chart. I can confirm that something is amiss. I don't edit that many images in PS, but I still do so regularly, and I have never noticed this before. (My images are in general neither saturated nor blue, so it is possible that there has been nothing to notice in those images. I have some very blue JPGs which I may try.) My hunch, though, it that this will end up being traced to something in the RAW conversion done to captures made with this camera.
*Anyone have any underwater RAW captures made with a camera other than a Nikon?*
Message was edited by: Kirby Krieger

How to install an external editor in version 2.1.1.64 for viewing XMLType

I have a question about viewing XMLType in version 2.1.1.64
If you want to view the content of an XMLType column in a data-tab, you can double click on the particular XMLType field and the edit button appears at the end. Push this edit button and an "Edit Dialog" popup appears with the data presented as one line.
Push the External Editor button and you get a dialog that informs you about the not supported mime type of the selected object. You can find the complete list of supported mime types in Tools->Preferences->External Editor panel. I like to use an external XML editor for viewing an xmltype column, can anyone put me on the right track? Change the Editor Location for the .xml file extension didn`t work.
Kind regards,
Erwin Snippert

This is the case:
SQL Developer version 2.1.1.64
Oracle client 11gR2
Oracle Database 9.2.0.6.
Under the table tree, on the left side of the screen, a table is selected with 3 columns. One of them is a XMLType column.
Click on the data tab on the right side of the screen and a part of the xml-data is visible of that XMLType column.
Perhaps my expectations are too high, i want to see the all XML data in a structured and readable way.
I have tried to accomplish this by double clicking on the particular data in the XMLType column. This results in an pencil icon on the right side of the data.
Click on this icon and a popup window appears with the 'Edit Value' titel. This windows shows the xml data as one string, not very readable.
I have the oppurtunity to click on an 'External Editor' button. It seems to me that i can use this button to see/edit the data with an external editor.
If you click on this button, a dialog appears with the following message : 'The Mime Type of selected object is currently not supported. Please see the complete list of supported Mime Type and extension in Tools>Preferences>External Editor panel.'
I have 2 questions, perhaps you can put me in the right direction :
- Why can't SQL developer standard display XML in a structured/readable way?
- How must SQL Developer be configured to use an external editor for displaying XML data from XMLType columns?
Kind Regards, Erwin

When using Photoshop Elements 9 as external editor my iPhoto version does not update

I am using Photoshop Elements 9 as an external editor in iPhoto V9.4.2
My photo's are Raw and they open in Elements fine for me to edit. When I go to save or exit I have problems. I get options to choose from - I am assuming that saving them as JPEG now they are edited is the best choice. However it shows me a file location where it will be saved and this is not the iPhoto libary. Even so, I save them where PSE wants to and when I go back to them in iPhoto they are not shown as edited (either in preview thumbnail or full version and regardless of which folder I look at them from). I shut iPhoto down and re-open and still they are not changed. I have watched the Adobe lesson on this and it is identical right up to the point of 'saving'. I have read other question on this and followed some advice but not getting the desired result of showing up in iPhoto still.
Thank you.

Are you using PSE and saving the edit as described below?
Using Photoshop or Photoshop Elements as Your Editor of Choice in iPhoto.
1 - select Photoshop or Photoshop Elememts as your editor of choice in iPhoto's General Preference Section's under the "Edit photo:" menu.
2 - double click on the thumbnail in iPhoto to open it in Photoshop. When you're finished editing click on the Save button. If you immediately get the JPEG Options window make your selection (Baseline standard seems to be the most compatible jpeg format) and click on the OK button. Your done.
3 - however, if you get the navigation window
that indicates that PS wants to save it as a PS formatted file. You'll need to either select JPEG from the menu and save (top image) or click on the desktop in the Navigation window (bottom image) and save it to the desktop for importing as a new photo.
This method will let iPhoto know that the photo has been editied and will update the thumbnail file to reflect the edit..
NOTE: With Photoshop Elements the Saving File preferences should be configured as shown:
I also suggest the Maximize PSD File Compatabilty be set to Always. In PSE’s General preference pane set the Color Picker to Apple as shown:
Note: to switch between iPhoto and PS or PSE as the editor of choice Control (right)-click on the thumbnail and select either Edit in iPhoto or Edit in External Editor from the contextual menu. If you use iPhoto to edit more than PSE re-select iPhoto in the iPhoto General preference pane. Then iPhoto will be the default editor and you can use the contextual menu to select PSE for your editor when desired.
OT

Exporting Versions: avoid duplicate files when using external editor?

I've got an Aperture Library containing TIFF masters. Some of the files have been edited via built-in Aperture tools; others have been edited using an external editor (PhotoShop). I want to do a batch export of all the Versions as scaled-down JPEG. If I select all the files in the library and export, everything works as expected, but there is one nuisance: every file that has been edited externally is exported twice.
For example, consider a file named "MyFile-1.tiff", which exists in the library in the original version and the edited version, with the same filename. The export writes two files:
MyFile-1.jpg (the original version)
MyFile-1 (001).jpg (the Photoshopped version)
I only want and need the edited version. So "MyFile-1.jpg" is extraneous and needs to be deleted, and "MyFile-1 (001).jpg" needs to be renamed.
Is there any way to prevent this from happening without manually deselecting all of the individual version files I don't want to export? I don't see any setting or smart album feature that would say "when you find a file that has been edited externally, export only the externally edited version".
It's not a big deal for me to use batch file renaming to clean up the exported files, but it is one more step in the workflow that I'd rather avoid.

Do the original versions of the externally edit images have Aperture adjustments applied? And if so would you then want both of the images exported?
If the answer to the first question is no or the answer to the second is yes then this should work:

Changing the version of Photoshop as the External Editor

Hi
I have Photoshop CC 32bit and Photoshop CC 64 bit installed on my Windows 7 PC. I want to use the 64 bit version for esternal editing, but my photos from Lightroom 5.3 go to the Photoshop CC 32bit version for external editing. I cannot find a way to change this preference.
Can anyone please suggest a solution other than uninstalling the Photoshop CC 32 bit version which does not appear to be an option?

First option is to open PS in 64 bit then start up Lightroom it will send the images to the open version of Photoshop
Second Option : Add Photoshop 64 bit as your 2nd external editor
See other options and info here: http://helpx.adobe.com/x-productkb/multi/edit-photoshop-command-missing-photoshop.html
Suzanne - http://www.suzannemathiaphotography.com

Lightroom is using Photoshop CC(2014) as the external editor. How do I get it to point to Photshop CC instead? Since I'm a CC subscriber, both versions are installed on my computer.

Lightroom is using Photoshop CC(2014) as the external editor. How do I get it to point to Photshop CC instead? Since I'm a CC subscriber, both versions are installed on my computer.

JimHess wrote:
I just don't see why you would want both Photoshop CC and Photoshop CC 2014 installed.
Jim, when PS CC 2014 became available, it was installed by the CC App alongside the existing PS CC app, rather than replacing it. For new subscribers who joined after PS CC 2014 was released, that's the only version that was installed (though the option to install PS CC is available via the Previous Version function of the CC App). Thus on my Windows system I have both versions installed automatically (because I started to subscribe before CC 2014 was released), whereas on my newer MBP only PS CC 2014 was installed because I installed it after CC 2014 was released.

No new version from Open With External Editor?

Is there a way to not create a new version every time I use "Open with External Editor"?
If I want to open an image in PS, just opening it creates a new version in Aperture, even if I don't make any adjustments to the image in PS.
I've deselected "Create new versions when making adjustments" in the preferences.
Thanks for anyone's insight!

Not sure this will help, but I noticed this problem as well a while ago, but have since developed a work around...
All my files start off as RAW. When I use "Open in External Editor", Aperture generates a new version with a bulls eye target (this is my C2 version). If manipulate this image in CS and save it when I close, it remains as a bullseye target (look at the lower right corner in full screen). If I reopen this specific image, no new file will be generated. If I manipulate it in Aperture, a new file will be generated (but without the bullseye target) and if I then use "Open in External Editor" another new file will be generated.
I have never checked to see what happens with a primary PSD file imported. And I am sure the meaning the bullseye target is in the manual someplace.
So my workflow is RAW file-->all my desired aperture adjustments-->open in external editor for final clean up and modification. I end up with my original RAW file (Aperture modified and restorable to original by removing all selections) and one CS2 file. If I want several version off of my first CS2 file, I duplicate version of the CS2 file, and the open the bullseyed version NOT the new duplicate version image.
Hope this helps...i know is seems wierd, but it works
steven

Opening with external editor always makes new version

i am a fine art figure photographer and portrait artist. almost every photo that i want to finish has to be round tripped to photoshop for retouching. in Aperture 1.5, i could select a photo, open in external editor (photoshop cs3), make my retouches and save the new version. if i wanted to re-visit the image and make further modifications, i could select the round-tripped photo, open with external editor, and the edited photo would be opened without creating a new version.
now in Aperture 2.0, once an image is edited and the new version saved, if i try to re-visit the image Aperture always creates a new version. this is a behavior that i don't want. new versions of photoshop edits are expensive when it comes to disk space. and with 30,000 images in my library, i just can't afford it!
in the preferences, i have the option "Create new versions when making adjustments" unchecked. that's the only option i can see that affects the automatic creation of new versions. any advice on how to edit the image without making a copy would be greatly appreciated!
thanks,
scott
Message was edited by: scott nichol

Hi,
I had the same problem as the OP and was surprised to read that Ian didn't encounter that same behavior. So I started testing several options. This is what I found;
When I open a previously-externally-edited picture from within Aperture, using the keyboard shortcut ⇧⌘ O, Aperture automatically creates a new version.
The same thing happens when I choose 'Edit with Adobe Photoshop CS3' from the Images menu in the menu bar.
On the other hand, when I open a previously-externally-edited picture from within Aperture by Ctrl clicking the picture and choosing 'Edit with Adobe Photoshop CS3' from the pop-up menu, the picture opens in Photoshop without Aperture creating a new version first.
Very strange because the pop-up menu command has the same keyboard shortcut as the commands I used in the first and second attempt.
Hope this helps.
Cheers,
Ivan

Deleting versions from external editor

I am sure this question has come up before, but I cannot seem to find it in a forum search.
I have my original RAW in Aperture. I use the "Open with external editor" command, make changes in PhotoShop and save. Aperture now has the "original" RAW and the "altered" PS file.
However, now I decide that I don't like the PS edits and want to delete that file. When I select is and choose "delete version" I get a dialog stating that a master will be deleted and there is no undo. If I allow the delete, the PS version and the original RAW are both trashed. I want to keep the RAW and delete the "altered" PS version.
What am I doing wrong and is there any way around this?

Yes, it should only delete the edited version if you have the edited version and only the edited version selected and not as just the main selection with the others in the stack selected. It should also delete any versions made from the edited master, but should leave the original master and it's versions intact.
I just tested this on my system and it did as expected.
Just take a sample image and import it with the sole intention of opening with the external editor and then selecting just the externally edited and deleting it. I know you're sure you had just the edited master selected, but are you sure sure?

Modified versions from external editor are not shown in browser, why?

After I modify an image in Silver Efex and save it , the image is not shown in it's modified form in the browser. When I open the image it shows as modified.

Remember when you return an image from an external editor/plugin the returned image is made into a new master. Are you sure you're looking at the correct image in Aperture?
If that's not it post back describing the exact steps you are taking from sending the image to the plugin until you're back in Aperture.
regards

Using Adobe Bridge as Aperture 3 External Editor

I have a problem that I can't seem to solve and I'm hopeful that a post here can get me closer to some resolution. I recently started using Bridge for noise reduction and PS for high pass sharpening. The downside is my work flow is now shot full of holes! I have Bridge as my external editor; I make the edits in Bridge then do a high pass sharpen as well as any other edits I might choose to make in PS. If I need to, I flatten the image if I have layers. It is here that my problem begins.
Aperture creates the new tiff version within it's program as soon as I choose to edit in Bridge, but I don't know the exact process to save that image while in Bridge or Photoshop to reflect the changes in Aperture. Another question I have is which version of the image in Bridge I should be editing the jpeg or tiff? any help here would be greatly appreciated!

I use Bridge as editor because once there, I go into "camera raw" to process images.
So now you're bringing a third app into the equation. Bridge, ACR and Photoshop are all individual applications. If you're not using an app like Aperture then Bridge might be the front end for the other two, but in the case you describe it has no role.
Another thing to think about: ACR ("camera Raw") is for processing Raws - which job you are currently doing with Aperture. You're not sending Raws to Bridge/ACR... You're sending tiffs.
I think you need to rethink your workflow somewhat. I'm not sure you've grasped what the various tools actually do.
Regards
TD

Feature Request: Option to Load Master in External Editor

Right now, if I want to edit a file in an external editor, Aperture makes a version first. While I understand the design reasoning, I need to override this behavior in two specific cases:
First, sometimes I want to use Adobe Camera Raw to process a RAW file. Aperture should allow me to do this directly from the application without exporting the master and loading it from the Finder.
Second, and this is more important for me, I'd like Aperture to send original layered PSD files as imported back to Photoshop for editing. Aperture will import my layered PSD files without difficulty. If I export the master, I get the original file. But if I try to open it in an external editor (Photoshop) from Aperture, Aperture makes a flattened intermediate version. That's not what I want - and it destroys my non-destructive workflow by flattening all my layers in Photoshop. What I'd like is an option to have Aperture send the master layered PSD file to Photoshop, allow me to edit it, and perhaps save the changes back in Aperture as modifications to the original layered PSD file.
There's an interesting semantic issue. "Non-destructive" is more than just not touching the original files. It's allowing for a workflow which can be rolled back to previous states. My work in Photoshop uses layers, masks, adjustments, and channels to achieve this. I need Aperture to allow me to keep using Photoshop in a non-destructive way, while enabling me to edit my RAWs and other flattened files in the powerful ways that Aperture offers.

Managing layered PSD files in Aperture
For those who absolutely must manage layered PSD files in Aperture, here is the way to do it...
1- In your original PSD file, HIDE ALL LAYERS above the background layer
2- IMPORT this PSD file into Aperture
3- CREATE A VERSION in Aperture by choosing to edit externally in Photoshop.
4- Back in Photoshop OPEN THE ORIGINAL PSD file along with the new version
5- LINK all the LAYERS in the original PSD file and DRAG them TO the new VERSION (holding the shift key down so they pin register)
6- SAVE the new version in Photoshop
7- Back in Aperture your version is now an exact layered copy of your original which will not flatten when reopened from Aperture into Photoshop.
Obviously this process will be rather tedious if you need to deal with hundreds of layered PSD files, but if you are in that situation that implies you already have a workflow and a storage strategy that works well for you. So why change, especially to Aperture?
Adobe Bridge or Media Pro or Portfolio are the obvious programs for you !
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How do I set up Premiere Elements 13 as the custom external editor for Lightroom 5?

Situation
I own Lightroom 5.6 and I'm experienced. I've just bought Premiere Elements 13 and I'm a video-editing virgin (be gentle with me). I've spent a day experimenting, reading, watching videos and I'm still stuck (I've tried reasonably hard to solve my own problem).
Problem
I've tried to set up the custom external editor in Lightroom 5 to send photos to Premiere Elements, so that I can incorporate images into movies. Having set it up, when I use it by selecting Photo/Edit In/Premiere Elements 13/, there is an exciting lull as a copy of the image is created and appears in LR, then Premiere Elements launches, then what??? There is no clue as to what has happened to the image regarding its import into Premiere Elements 13. It doesn't appear on the screen, it doesn't appear in the Organizer, it's no-where to be seen, other than in LR!
Resolution sought:
Can anyone tell me
1. Is it possible to use Premiere Elements as an external editor in LR5 ?
2. What are the precise settings should be for each field?
3. If I configure it correctly, what does good look like: what should I expect to see happen in Premiere Elements?
I don't know if this is relevant: MacBook Pro 16GB 2.8Ghz i7, 750GB SSD (i.e. plenty of space, plenty of horsepower), OS X 10.9.5
I also don't know if I this is the right place for my question (Adobe directed me here) so please don't shout at me if I've come to the wrong place (I expect if I get no joy here, when I post it to an LR forum, they'll shout at me too :-)
Thanks
Phil

Phil
You wrote
1. Is it possible to use Premiere Elements as an external editor in LR5 ?
I do not have Lightroom 5 or other version of it. I did do some work on an earlier version tryout of it.
And, I believe now as then, that the answer to your question is No. Bottom line, if there is integration
to be found between Lightroom, it is between Photoshop Elements and the Elements Organizer, not the Premiere Elements Editor.
The following is the extent of my travels through Lightroom with focus the Slideshow Module.
Lightroom 4.1 Slideshow Module Visited - Elements Village
Good suggestion to get the Lightroom view point at the Adobe Lightroom Forum.
Best wishes
ATR

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