External effects in Logic 8LE

Howdy folks. I am trying to get my external effects units (reverb, delay and such) working in Logic. My signal is hitting the effects units but I am unsuccessful when bussing it to the mains. I have tried every conceivable option. Also have used the I/O ulility which shuts down the signal to the effects even after choosing the correct ins and outs. What gives with this. Maybe someone can walk me through it and my Motu ultralite has all the necessary ins and outs etc and these effects are all hooked up correctly. Is there something missing in the manual? I am half way there, but it seems it is logic itself. Has there been only one update for Logic LE8 so far? Stumped!

Guys, you have to use Aux channels and insert I/O plug-in there. After inserting the plug-in, configure the send/return audio routing there. Output is the 'send' (corresponds to the output of the interface which is connected to the effect unit's input) and input is 'return' (return from the effect unit output connected to an input socket of the audio interface).
Configuration done, just use this Aux channel as a send effect on the mixer tracks.
Do this for every external effects unit. If there are 3 units, then 3 Aux channels should be created and configured this way.
Details: Chapter 25 "Mixing" -> Auxiliary channel -> Using Aux Channels for External Audio Processing (p. 593) of the LE8 Operation Manual

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Using External Effects with Logic

I'm about to purchase Logic 9, and also need an Audio Interface.
I've got a Korg MicroKorg, which I intend to line-in for its own synth functionality. I also intend to use it as a midi control surface to use percussion, etc., in Logic. How would this work with external effects?
If I create a drum track in Logic, I'd like to do things like run that track through pedals like an EHX Flanger Hoax (I realize sound quality may vary, given that this is a guitar effect).
How what I do that, and what would I need to look for in an Audio Interface to allow me to get the audio out of Logic, through the pedal, and back into Logic?
Thx.

I think I understand you - you have a choice of Firewire or USB connected devices - Firewire devices are faster and generally more reliable and can handle a larger bandwidth, so if you're planning on recording numerous inputs, for example, this will matter. However, USB devices are pretty good on the whole - I'm using a simple Apogee One at the moment, which is perfectly adequate for my purposes, but my earlier point was that it obviously wouldn't be any good for using external effects since you're going to need to send a signal out from Logic (maybe via a Bus/Auxiliary) to your effects device and then return it back into Logic, so you need an interface with enough inputs and outputs to be able to do that. You might want to have other outboard gear permanently connected for convenience, so only you can work out how many inputs and outputs you'll need and obviously, the bigger the requirement, the more expensive it will be. You'll have to do some Googling to give you an idea - Apogee, Focusrite and MOTU are good starting points, in my opinion but there's a vast range (I'd avoid MAudio)
http://www.google.co.uk/#hl=en&gs_nf=1&cp=22&gs_id=2g&xhr=t&q=audio+interfaces+f or+mac&pf=p&sclient=psy-ab&oq=audio+intefaces+for+ma&gs_l=&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_g c.r_pw.r_qf.,cf.osb&fp=426f61de939593dc&biw=1231&bih=579
Another point I was trying to make earlier is that Logic includes such a large range of effects to choose from (the Pedalboard is an emulation of various fx pedals which you can swop around) that you may find you can get the kind of sounds you want 'in the box' - so that's well worth a try first.

Strange new problem with external effects and latency compensation

i'm currently facing a new , very strange problem with latency compensation for external effect devices. it alway worked fine for me but suddenly there are strange things going on. i'm suddenly running into problems when using sends which feed auxes going to external effect devices.
latency compensation is set to ALL !!!
easy setup :
- open an empty project and create 2 audioinstrument tracks. on the first one load the exs with a drumkit and record f.e. a bassdrum pattern. leave the 2. instrument empty.
- now on the first audio instrument create a send to bus 1 -> aux 1 and insert the i/o plug-in in the aux and route it to your external effect device. chose a temposynced delay.
- press play = everything is fine when audioinstrument 1 is highlighted in the arrange.
- press stop, click on the track with the 2. audioinstrument and press play = totaly weird timing problems. delay is only in sync when track 1 is highlighted.
- create a send in the 2. audioinstrument and route it to bus 1 -> aux 1 too = still the same problem
now insert ANY softwareinstrument in audioobject 2 and suddenly the timing for the delay is right.
go ahead and create a 3. audioinstrument track but leave it empty first. chose it in the arrange = again weird timing problems with the external delay.
insert any software instrument on audioinstrument 3 = still the same problem
now create the send to bus 1 -> aux 1 in audioinstrument 3 and guess what, timing is right.
*** is going on here ? can anyone reproduce that ?
it works fine when using sends which feed auxes with software effects inserted.
funny thing is, when i go to the environment and change aux object one to bus object 1 and insert the same i/o in it it works !!!
very very strange, please tell me i'm not crasy and this is a bug !!!
as said, latency compensation is set to all.
i'm using the mac pro 3.2 8-core running os 10.5.4, logic 8.0.2 and a motu pci-e audio system.
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Latency and External effects

Hi,
just wanted to know whether Logic NOW correctly handles latency on external effects, and by correct I mean is it automatically compensated for?
Blessings and Love
Beya

Since I invented the "Latency Fixer" plugin, I think I should answer this post.
I use outboard gear rather than plugins. When routing audio out through the converters and back, latency is a serious problem. I found that using the track delay parameter to compensate for this latency was worthless, since it is tied to the song tempo, it is too time consuming to set up for each song. It is also not sample accurate.
I theorized that since all AU plugins need to report their latency to the Core Audio driver, a simple plugin could be created to do nothing more than to report a certain amount of latency which was specified by the user, thereby causing the Core Audio system to read that track ahead by this fixed amount. I contacted three programmers aboout coding this simple plugin. All three said it was impossible, but OS from the OS collective actually responded with questions and arguments, and we started a dialog. After a few permutations we came up with the current incarnation. In Logic 6 is was not possible to set up a different compensation for each instanciation, but in Logic 7 it is.
In my work I require absolute sample accuracy, and I much prefer to know precisely that my interfaces are compensated to this degree.
I recently sent off one of my MOTU HD192 to MOTU for repair, and the unit they returned back was a different hardware revision. It had a ONE sample difference in latency from my other HD 192. MOTU took a rather arrogant stance, telling me that I cannot hear one sample difference. Trust me, when you are parallel processing using outboard gear, one sample causes a serious phase problem.
Despite what the above poster said, there is NO means to adjust for insert latency in Logic. There is a recording delay parameter , but that has no effect on this problem.
Also, the latency changes with each Logic version and OSX revision. You need to re-test your system using the method outlined above each time you update any part of the software.
If you are using a firewire interface, you may find that it is impossible to accurately compensate for latency due to Apple's firewire driver issues.

Univibe effect in Logic 8?

Anyone know how to create the "univibe" effect in logic 8, made famous by Jimi Hendrix?

Hi,
You might like to try a little phase too... Check this out:
http://www.geofex.com/Article_Folders/univibe/univtech.htm
Cheers,
Bryan

How to set up external instrument in logic pro x

how do you set up external instrument in logic pro x without triggering the instrument twice - by the external instrument GM device to control playback and playing the instrument itself? thank you

I use the local off method but there is another way.
Go to Settings/MIDI and use the "Instrument Without MIDI Thru Function" selector to pick the device and channel your hardware keyboard is transmitting on.
Settings are on a Per Song basis, they're not global like Preferences are.

Offline Bouncing with external effects

Hi
I know that I have to print all external midi instruments to audio before offline bouncing. But what about external effects?
Say I have a I/O plugin on my master bus routed to an external compressor, do I have to print the compressor or will it be included in the offline bounce?
Also, if I do a realtime bounce will it include the compressor?

Ok, so as I thought offline bounce will not include the external effects, but what about realtime? Does it include the external effects?

Vocal effects in Logic pro 8

Hi everyone.
My question is if everyone here noticed that the vocal effects in Logic pro 8 are not the same as in garageband 3... I mean I've been working for a while with garageband and the vocal effects of garageband are amazing.. especially the live performance one...but now I just Updated to Logic 8 and the live performance effect is sooo dry compared to garageband live performance effect... the same for all the other vocal effects... they're really dry..I don't know if its my software.. I'm simply sad with this...I Upgraded to logic to get better results and suddenly I see myself having this problem... Could anyone tell me if they have the same problem as me?? Do you feel that your vocal effects in logic are the same or even better than Garageband 3??
Thanks...

The plug-ins in Logic provide a greater control than those of Garageband, and they come with a price: you need to have some working knowledge of how things work in Logic. Several factors can affect your sound, ranging from where you plugged things in (routing) to what you have plugged in. The problem here is that you're simply plugging in something with a blind assumption that because Logic is a better piece of software than Garageband, your sound will automagically be better. There is no magic plug-in.
jord

Good hardware to run After Effects and Logic Pro?

Hello Anyone Who Will Listen!
I am currently using a 15" MacBook Pro running on OS X 10.7.5 (Lion)
--Processor 2.4 GHz Intel Core i7
--750 GB HardDrive
--4 GB RAM (1333 MHz DDR3)
--AMD Radeon HD 6770M 1024 MB Graphics
--I also use a WD "My Passprt Studio" 1TB External Hardive. (I store all my Logic Pro, After Effects, Photoshop and Illustrator projects on there instead of on the Main MacBook HD which only has 750GB of Memory)
I am a musician and an audio engineer of sorts. I have been producing music on my MacBook Pro using Logic Pro, amongst some other third party Plug-ins that are each just as big as Logic Pro. And for the past year I've been hittin it pretty aggressively as I produced my entire album with my MacBook Pro being the only computer involved in the process. As you probably know that is a hefty workload to put on a computer between recording tracks, mixing and mastering...I'm honestly surprised my MacBook Pro made it through the whole process with only 4GB of RAM. Although it did give me some "System Overload" messages along the way which got to be very annoying interrupting my workflow. And while I was using Logic Pro I could never have another application open at the same time. Even something like Safari could not be opened while I was using Logic Pro.
Now to top it all off I am using other Applications to market my music such as Adobe Illustrator, Adobe Photoshop and Adobe After Effects. I'm using version CS6 for Photoshop and Illustrator and using the new Creative Cloud version for After Effects.
Now that I've explained what I use my computer for I can explain the actual problem haha...Inside Logic Pro there were two indicators, one labeled HD and the other labeled CPU, if one or the other reached its limit the system would overload cause lagging or just a shut down/freeze. And while working in Adobe After Effects the "RAM Preview" almost never plays back in realtime if I get more than a minute into a song that a am making a Kinetic Typography Video for.
So I need a new Computer or external HD or Increased RAM that will make these things no longer happen...I am open to any suggestions or ideas.

This Trashcan is an option, but carries the usual disadvantages of all Apple products:
Huge price
Mediocre specs
Only single CPU
Slow video cards
Only Thunderbolt 1 connection
Limited expansion capabilities.
A PC would offer much better price / performance, but Logic Pro is the limiting factor.

Can I use rack effects with logic?

I am kind of interested in getting a rack effect such as the Digitech DSP 256XL Rack Mount Effects Processor. I am wondering if I could implement this with Logic. I currently use a Tascam USB audio interface with 2 inputs. I just want effects hardware instead of logic's effects. How would this work, if it would at all. Thanks a lot.

RyConn M.D. wrote:
I am kind of interested in getting a rack effect such as the Digitech DSP 256XL Rack Mount Effects Processor. I am wondering if I could implement this with Logic. I currently use a Tascam USB audio interface with 2 inputs. I just want effects hardware instead of logic's effects. How would this work, if it would at all. Thanks a lot.
Hi,
I use outboard all the time with my Logic.
I do have a 16 input and 16 output converters setup, so I can route to and from the external devices easily.
You can do the same, although if using the FX unit with your current interface you would do a "solo"ed send to the FX, and record the FX returns into Logic, then you could use the FX printed inside logic to play back the effect. This can be easy, or can be hard.
Usually when I do external FX, I do them when final mixing, and when I am "there" with the mix, I print the FX individually into new tracks, so I can recall the mix later on in a different studio, if I need to, or to archive it with the correct FX sounds in the DAW, for the label or artist.
Cheers

New External Monitor for Logic on MacBook Pro - Suggestions

I'm in the painful process of updating my studio and now my large screen external monitor has started failing.
I know if this a pretty general question more suited to the MacBook Pro forum but I'd like some input from folks used to working with an application like Logic in a home studio environment.
I guess the issue for me is that I'm not getting any younger and my eyesight isn't what it used to be. One of the things specific to Logic and music software in general is that there are LOTS of very detailed dialog boxes with text that is not always height adjustable (yes I know about zooming and indeed I do lots of that but it gets quite distracting). The other factor is that I'm often recording and engineering myself which means I'll be sitting with a guitar in my lap or at a keyboard and can't always lean in too close to the monitor.
I solved this by buying a large 26" Acer which sits on my desk behind the Mackie MCU. To my left I've got the MacBook 15.4" Pro on a keyboard stand above my MIDI controller at a 45 degree angle to the desk.
It's worked quite well until the Acer seems to have become haunted. It will mysteriously reboot itself intermittently, going blank for a second, then showing the Acer logo and going back to picture. It will also turn itself on spontaneously when the computer is off (the status light is off and then turns itself on). It seems to detect when I'm in the middle of a really good session and starts resetting itself every 30 seconds or so. Then it will work fine sometimes for days or weeks at a time. I've checked it on 4 different computers, it malfunctions on all. I believe in may be a problem with one of the capacitors or the inverter, I'm not sure, but it's driving CRAZY at this point.
And of course now it's 3 months out of warranty and may be more expensive to fix than buying a new one.
So my issue is what monitor to replace it with. I've considered buying an Apple monitor, since the display is lovely to look at but there are a couple things that are deal breakers.
It's expensive. Very expensive.
Oddly you have to choose between a 24" and a 30", with nothing in between. Don't want to sound like Goldilocks here, but the 24 is tooooo small and the 30 is tooooo big.
Yeah I know bigger is usually better but since they bumped the native resolution of the 30" up to 2560x1600 it's really sharp but things like the menu text get really quite small. Yes you can reset to a lower non native resolution, but then you loose the sharpness. I tested Logic in the store on the 30" and it did look great but I found I actually had to move my whole body around to see things at the top and bottom of the screen.
Oh and did I mention that it's expensive? Jeez.
The 24" now seems to look a bit small to me after using the same resolution (1920x1200) on the Acer's 26" screen. (Ok, I think it's actually 25.5 but hey that half an inch can make a big difference and I will avoid making any bad jokes here).
And did I mention the Apple monitors are expensive? The 24" is almost 3 times as expensive as a cheaper alternative.
I also still have a PC here that I use (sorry) and the Apple monitors have very limited connectivity. So I think unfortunately the Apple monitors are out for me.
So I;m down to a couple other non Apple options. I will not buy an Acer again since I believe now that their quality control is not good and their support is absolutely atrocious. Shame I used to be a big fan of Acer PC's, but after owning a couple I'm steering clear.
My biggest issue right now is that most of the new budget monitors are geared toward 1080p HD uses so they are they are maxing out at 1920x1080 (16:9 aspect ratio instead of 1920x1200's 16:10). So the tradeoff here is that HD movies will look better in 16:9, but 16:10 gives you "squarer" pixels and more vertical resolution for screen hungry apps like Logic.
Any opinions on this? I'm a bit new to the Mac so I don't know if I'm really better off going with a 1920x1200 screen like the Apple monitors.
Also, I know this may just be a bug in the Acer's scaling, but if I switch to 1920x1080, I lose the menus off the top of the screen or if I adjust the vpos I lose the dock at the bottom. Downscaling to 1600x1050 or even 1024x768 works fine. If I get a 1080 screen and set the resolution appropriately will it work correctly and without too much distortion?
I'm also curious what is the best way to hook up the monitor? I'm currently using the DVI to VGA adapter that came with the MacBook. My Pro is the slighter older silver keyboard model so it has the standard DVI out. Will I see any real improvement by going over to using DVI directly?
Also I'm wondering how people feel about glossy vs matte for music. My current displays are the non-glossy and I do think I prefer them for detail work.
The candidates right now are
Hanns-G HH-281HPB 28" @300$. It's one of the only budget monitors that uses 1920x1200. All the right inputs (DVI, VGA). I'm just afraid this might be a bit too good to be true. It's really cheap and after having problems with a "cheap" Acer (although it wasn't so cheap 3 years ago!) I don't want similar problems. Stand has no swivel or tilt (a big problem for my use). Also that resolution on such a big screen might be good for me or it might look grainy I don't know I haven't seen it. Anybody have any experience with these?
Samsung P2770H 27" @339 Looks nice, good color. Sadly only 1080 native resolution. Stand doesn't swivel, but does tilt. No VGA input, so won't work with my old PC (although strangely it says it comes with a VGA cable). They get generally good reviews and I know Samsung makes very good flat panel TV's.
ViewSonic X Series VX2739WM 27" @350. Once again maxes out at 1080. It's fast (1ms), has VGA input. I've never been a big fan of ViewSonic but they do seem to have gotten better color-wise. Tilt no swivel and it's anti-glare (not sure this is a plus).
There are also similar options from HP, Asus, LG and Sceptre but they are all 1080. In fact outside of the Apples, the Hanns-G and a few expensive monitors from NEC they all seem to be 1080. So if I really want the 1200 the Hanns-G seems like the only way to go.
Any input here would be greatly appreciated.

No doubt, the Apple displays are gorgeous. The first time I saw the 30" display wow, I wanted one BAD and it's actually what prompted me to buy a "big" monitor. The colors are great with a rich wonderful saturation level and as usual for Apple the form factor design is stunning. You know for that picture quality I could even get over the sticker shock and save up for one.
Which is why I was so disappointed when I actually sat down in the store and started to use Logic on one. I imagine for doing video work, graphic design or darn near anything else, it would be great. But for Logic I just found myself bending and twisting trying to look at toolbar at the bottom and then up to look at the menus. And instrument or plugin displays that were hard coded to look OK at lower resolutions looked really, really tiny to me. For me and particularly using Logic having 2 slightly smaller displays at a 45 degree angle makes more sense.
And once again the 24 seems just a bit small. I don't understand why they have a 27" iMac but you can't buy a 27" display. So iMac 27" starting at 1699, subtract out the cost of the CPU and drive ie the Mini and I'd really buy one. Strangely you can buy a 21.5" or a 27" iMac. Or you can buy a 24" or 30" display. Hmmmm.
So don't get me wrong I'm not bashing Apple for being expensive. They put a lot of money into R&D and into really thinking about the form and the function of their products. As a recent convert from being a PC developer for 25+ years, hey I've more than sipped the Kool-Aid here, I've guzzled it. They make great products and yeah they're more expensive, because they ARE better! I've now got 2 MBP's, 2 iPods, I'm about to get an iPhone (silly "death grip" or not) and I really want an iPad. Heck I'd really love an 8 core MacPro if I could afford one (alas I can't).
I guess my only gripe here is that there always seems to be a little less choice in the Apple world. Yeah, I know they do a lot less volume than the PC clone world I just think that they always seem to have a big gap between the high end and low end with not enough in between. So you can choose between the lower end and one piece units with no expansion boards (the mini or the iMac) or go straight to monster tower MacPro (way over 3K with display). You can get a MacBook but then you have to put up with a small screen or go with MacBook Pro, which let's face it is a lot of computing power for someone who just wants to web surf and write some email without squinting.
So here I am stuck in the middle. I don't want to buy a HannspreeQG or another piece of junk that's going to last 3 years and 3 months because of a crappy $2 capacitor that no seems to able to fix or care about fixing. I'd like to buy a really nice Apple monitor, I just want a big monitor, not a huge one and not a "medium" one (I know I'm spoiled but 24" seems "medium" these days).
Sorry about the rant here but my monitor is shutting down every 30 seconds and I'm about to go completely insane and toss it out the window!!!
Really glad to hear about that 84' VGA cable. I never imagined such a thing existed or would work without some sort of signal boost on the way. Very cool for me. My electronic drum kit is in another room and I would love to have a small cheap monitor next to it for sequencing. I had my laptop on a stand next to it for a while but I began to get terrified that I'd let a drumstick slip and destroy my laptop screen. That would be a very bad thing. Thanks for the tip.

Using a usb external drive with logic

I have a 500 GB Lacie usb hard drive which I'm currently using just to backup my system. (Still on Tiger by the way.) I'm in an older intel iMac (1.83. 2 gigs ram, 250 gig internal hard drive). After installing LP 8 and all the bells and whistles on the internal drive I now have less than half of my internal drive space available. My logic project files are there as well. Not a big problem but I'm trying to look further down the road... Usb drives are slower than firewire but my projects are relatively simple. I don't record more than 2 tracks simultaneously and rarely exceed 24 tracks total for a song. Two questions. First can I get by with my usb external drive? And second how do I move my projects onto and external drive and still have logic know where they are? Thanks

I have the oldest macbook (1.83. 2 gigs ram, 60 gig internal hard drive)
I have all my logic content on my external maxtor firewire 400 drive (usb 2.0 is actually faster than firewire 400) and everything is fine. the good thing is if your external drive has 7200rpm, but the ones with 5600rpm should do as well.
Once you drag your apple loops to logic from your external drive, logic will remember for the next visit. And when you are opening a project which is on the external drive , just find it with logic finder and all should be fine.

Do you have to add effects to Logic Pro X loops when mixing a song?

Hi everyone,
I have a question that has been puzzling me and I cannot seem to find an answer for! I have searched high and low on the internet and still cannot find the answer and so I would be grateful to everyones help with this issue.
My question is that you hear so much about the fact that when you are recording and mixing a track that different instruments for example the Bass Drum and the Bass guitar occupy similar frequencies and we are told that this is why you have to add effects to these instruments when mixing but what I want to know is are they talking about just organic instruments like real drums and a real bass guitar that you manually play and record to Logic Pro X`s audio tracks? Or should you treat the Loops exactly the same? And should you also add effects to the Logic Pro X loops when you are mixing those specific tracks?
For example if I add a Drum Loop or Bass Loop to a project and then start mixing the song should I add any effects for example EQ, Compression to these Loops? And what would be the best effects to add to the Bass and the Drums when mixing to help them stand out in the mix?
Many thanks.

Jamiesroom wrote:
... when you are recording and mixing a track that different instruments for example the Bass Drum and the Bass guitar occupy similar frequencies and we are told that this is why you have to add effects to these instruments when mixing ...
Whoever told you that overly generalized rule, please stop listening to that person .
The way you post your question (and they are good questions) points out a big problem nowadays. There is so much cookie cutter solutions out there like if you have this, then use that, if you want to get this sound, press that button. The problem with that is that you you often have no idea why you are doing that in the first place.
Let me give you a simple example about gardening (sorry about that). If I grow tomatoes and look up on the internet how often to water them, I can find an answer "water the tomatoes once a week". I might do that and result is that the tomatoes will die. What I didn't take into account is that the advice was given from someone growing tomatoes in Russia, and I live in California where I might need to water them once a day. So, the answer you are looking for is not "how often to water the tomato", instead you have to learn how much water, depending on your climate, the tomato needs"
Your music is the tomato. So the question is not what button to press (how often to water), but what button needs to be pressed, depending on your specific recordings (your climate).
If your bass drum and and bass guitar are more further apart frequency wise, then there might be no need to EQ them, it depends
Nobody should or could tell you what to do, unless he or she sits next to you at the mix and "hears' what is going on and what needs to be done.
Don't get me wrong, I don't say that there is a lot of great advice and general guidelines out there. The problem is when you apply that blindly without knowing a little bit why that advice is give and how to apply that, or if it applies to your situation at all.
In addition: The skills and knowledge about the theory is as important as the skills and experience of listening and judging your recording/mix and decide what action to take.You have to learn what to listen to and what you hear. If you don't know how distortion sounds then you miss out on fixing that issue. If you don't know how a pumping compressor sounds, then you miss out on fixing that issue.
I think you get the idea
Hope that helps
Edgar Rothermich
http://DingDingMusic.com/Manuals/
'I may receive some form of compensation, financial or otherwise, from my recommendation or link.'

Hooking Up external synth into Logic 9

Hi. Im trying to hook up a Korg R3 synth trhough a Motu Ultralight midi interface and a Presonus Firestudio Audio Interface. Logic recognizes the midi signals. I dont know how to properly hook my synth up to my Audio interface for it to work with Logic. Can anyone help.

With no offense intended: your questions seem to indicate confusion on an extremely basic level that's probably quite beyond the scope of this forum.
It sounds like you need an introduction to basic MIDI, and the differences between MIDI and audio.
http://www.tweakheadz.com/howto_get_started_withmidi.html
Basically, MIDI is the equivalent of sheet music - it tells the performing instrument which note(s) to play at what time. What the actual audio generated sounds like is of no concern to MIDI - that depends on the instrument used.
The audio is the equivalent of a CD recording of the sheet music being performed. It's a completely different medium, as it were.
Where it gets confusing is in devices that do both, such as the Kaoss pad: you can use it as a MIDI controller to influence the parameters of the synthesizer, AND you can use it to mangle the audio that comes out of the synthesizer (or anywhere else).
You're going to want to hook the Kaoss pad up via MIDI and audio; the trick is using the Presonus Firebox's mixer/routing application to route the incoming/outgoing audio to your monitor system and into the Kaoss pad at the same time (so as to be able to add FX from the Kaoss pad).
The audio routing will probably be easier to setup for an inexperienced user/better to control with an external mixer, though the Presonus is certainly potent enough to get it all done in software. But how to set that up really depends on what exactly you're looking to be doing.
It's easier to fiddle around with cables and a hardware mixer if you're just learning.

Using XI WebService in CAF as external service with Logical Destination?

Hello,
I created a scenario WebService -> XI -> WebService in a PI7.1 system. I used the Web Service Wizard in order to generate a WSDL. If I test it for example in XMLSpy it works fine.
We then imported this WSDL into CAF as external service. That also works.
Now we have to map the CAF Service to a logical Destination. This has to be maintained in NWA. But here we need a URL to the WSDL. I cannot use the local WSDL Filed which I from that WebService Wizard.
Is there any generic URL were I can get the WSDL for the WebService which calls the XI Interface?
Thanks and Best Regards
Katharina
Edited by: Katharina Seiz on Oct 6, 2008 6:19 PM

Good Idea. I tried that. I added the WSDL to a Web Module and deployed it with the CAF ear module. It is now available via: http://vmw2469.wdf.sap.corp:50000/testxi/GLAccountPostingSync_Out_PI71.wsdl
If I test it directly in WSNavigator it works fine, but if I map my CAF Service to the logical Destination which is also using that URL, I get the following error:
com.sap.engine.services.webservices.espbase.query.exceptions.TechnicalException: Deserializing WSDL stream http://vmw2469.wdf.sap.corp:50000/testxi/GLAccountPostingSync_Out_PI71.wsdl failed
If I try to find the service via the function "Search by Logical Destination" I get the following error:
Invalid content type while requesting http://vmw2469.wdf.sap.corp:50000/testxi/GLAccountPostingSync_Out_PI71.wsdl. Expected Content-type: text/xml, received Content-type: content/unknown, used user to connect: most
Has someone any idea what the problem could be?
Thanks and Best Regards
Katharina
Edited by: Katharina Seiz on Oct 6, 2008 6:32 PM

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