External fire wire hard drive sleep trouble

I have two Seagate fire wire external hard drives. One is a 200 gig, the other a 300 gig. Both drives were working fine untill I think the last OS 10.4.2 update. Anyway, after my Imac wakes from sleep, when Finder calls up one of the external hard drives, finder hangs up with the color spinning wheel. Also, if Itunes calls up the disk for a song, it will hang also. I have to reboot. The drives will not return from their sleep state, I guess. My USB Maxtor external 300 gig drive works fine, but it does not seem to power down like it once did. Any ideas how to fix this? I had to just turn off the firewire drives. I do keep an Ipod attached via firewire, and it works fine.

Sounds like you need to run the repair option in Disk Utility on the 2 firewire drives, see if that fixes the problem.
You may need to run repair 2 -3 times just to make sure.

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