External firewire enclosure. Which one?

Hi,
My old G4 tower had two extra hard drives, and I'd like to put both of them in ONE HD enclosure so I can access them from my iMac. Does such an enclosure exist to support two separate drives? I'd like to avoid getting a separate case for each drive.
Thanks;
J.
iMac 24" 2.33 CD2 Mac OS X (10.4.7) 2GB RAM

Some extra information:
RAID 0: Also called "stripe" mode. Operations on the array will be splitted on both drive's; for example, a large write will be split up as 32 kB to disk 1, 32 kB to disk 2, 32 kB to disk 1, then 32 kB to disk 2, and so on. The read and write performance will increase, because read's and write's are done in parallel on the devices. This is usually the main reason for running RAID-0. Your read and write performance will be about twice as fast. Of Course, the disks must be of equal size. If one disk is larger than another, your RAID device will be the size of the smallest disk
RAID 1: This mode maintains an exact mirror of the information from one disk on the other disk. Of Course, the disks must be of equal size. If one disk is larger than another, your RAID device will be the size of the smallest disk. Write performance is often the same or worse than on a single device, because identical copies of the data written must be sent to every disk in the array. But your data is really save, if one disk does fail, all the information is still on the other one.
If you are not interested in a RAID set-up, you can ofcours buy a enclosure without the RAID function's.
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