External firewire hdd | no suspend mode?

hi list!
i'm using an external hdd with an prolific 3507 chipset, which causes a few problems with apple mac os x 10.4. so finder hangs sometimes and freezes the whole sys. but it looks pretty good after 10.4.8 update.
unfortunately it doesn't go into suspend mode when i'm hibernating the mac mini. but the strange thing is, that this 'feature' worked before (shortly after i bought it), but stopped working after a kernel upgrade (i think it was 10.4.4). anyway it works with the usb2 connection...
any hints? does suspending your macs lead to a supend of the external firewire hdds?
mac mini 1.66 dc, 1 gb ram Mac OS X (10.4.6)

You probably should re-post in the Boot Camp forum, this is where the Boot Camp and MS Windows folks hang out.

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hi list!
unfortunately my finder.app gets completely wasted very often, which is quite annoying. i think this has got sth to do with my external firewire enclosure (raidsonic icybox 351 usb2/fw combo, prolific chipset), which sometimes just stops working (eg. after hibernate). and only if i disconnect the drive or switch it off completely, finder (and all the other finder-like dialogs) reincarnates. i feel the problem came up more often after a firmware update (mac mini or smc), but i could be wrong. no probs with this drive with lin and win so far...
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