External Firewire ODD Problem

Hi~
My Mac mini (PPC) would not recognize external firewire DVD writer.
Trial I.
System profiler information about firewire of Mac mini shows:
Manufacturer - Unknown
Model - Unknown Device
In my other mac, iMac G5, the attached device information is:
Manufacturer - Exxxx
Model - GAxxxxx
Conclusion I: external firewire ODD can be recognized in the other Mac than Mac mini.
Trial II.
I attached other external firewire HDD to Mac mini and iMac G5.
Both recognized the device.
Conclusion II: Firewire bus of Mac mini is functional.
Mac mini information:
CPU: 1.25 PPC G4
RAM: 1GB
Is there any solution for this problem?
Thanks in advance~

yes there is a solution called patch burn
the application is free just go to
www.google.com and search for patchburn what patch burn does is it creates a new driver automaticly for any dvd burner or any cd-rom drive that is mac compatible but isn't detected correctly you can try this first and see what happens if this doesn't work then you may need to find a drive that is compatible

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