External FireWire

I was told I can use my old G3 drive as an external FireWire hard disk. I've hooked up a cable using the noted firewire ports on each hard drive, What and how to do a backup of selected files is the problem. I expected the drive icon to appear on my G5 and just do a drag and drop of files to the g3 icon and wala - nothing is easy......
Is this a pipedream? My system is OS X 10.4.5
G5 Mac OS X (10.4.5)

Welcome to Apple Discussions.
Did you plug the power adaptor to the external FireWire drive as well? The G5's FireWire ports don't put out enough juice to power desktop drives.
I've hooked up a cable using the noted firewire ports on each hard drive
Do you mean to say you tried FireWire target disk mode? The Power Mac G3s cannot be used as target computers.

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Photon2:
Yes, you can set up your external firewire HDD as an emergency boot drive.
Here's what you need to do:
1. Your HDD must be formatted Mac OS Extended (Journaled)
2. (Optional) I suggest you partition your HDD so that the first partition is roughly equivalent to the size of your internal HDD. The rest can be partitioned for other uses. (See Dr. Smoke's FAQ Backup and Recovery) For step-by-step for formatting and partitioning please post back).
3. Use SuperDuper or Carbon Copy Cloner to make a bootable clone of your internal HDD to the external firewire HDD/partition.
Please post back with further questions or comments.
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There sure are some radically contradictory posts here! (This isn't typical, at least in this section of the Discussions, RMx2.)
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The drive shows up when starting up by pressing the option key but then, after a long time, the iMac shows a circle/slash symbol as if it can't find the system files.
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You need to reinstall Snow Leopard onto the external drive:
Reinstall OS X without erasing the drive
Do the following:
1. Repair the Hard Drive and Permissions
Boot from your Snow Leopard Installer disc. After the installer loads select your language and click on the Continue button. When the menu bar appears select Disk Utility from the Utilities menu. After DU loads select your hard drive entry (mfgr.'s ID and drive size) from the the left side list. In the DU status area you will see an entry for the S.M.A.R.T. status of the hard drive. If it does not say "Verified" then the hard drive is failing or failed. (SMART status is not reported on external Firewire or USB drives.) If the drive is "Verified" then select your OS X volume from the list on the left (sub-entry below the drive entry,) click on the First Aid tab, then click on the Repair Disk button. If DU reports any errors that have been fixed, then re-run Repair Disk until no errors are reported. If no errors are reported click on the Repair Permissions button. Wait until the operation completes, then quit DU and return to the installer.
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I have read elsewhere that the FW 800 port on the iMac 24 can be a bit tricky. You may want to make sure you have a good connection.
I formatted mine out of the box which is just good practice and because I wanted to make a partition bootable/clone.
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