External Hard Drive as back up

Hello All,
Thanks for taking the time to read this in advance.
Does anyone have any advice for a first time user using an external HD to back up iTunes from an HP Pavilion Entertainment PC laptop. Or recomendations on which brand of external HD is the best to purchase for this purpose. I have currently 15GB in my iTunes library which is rapidly growing with mostly music and audio books. My HD limit is small at 60GB with 75% in use. I want to get a larger HD installed in my laptop...However I'm just a bit paranoid about sending it for installation of a larger one with out backing up everything. As everyone here already knows audio books and music are investments and can be costly. The two places most convient to purchase from are Best Buy and Fry's Electronics...
Thanks for any advice.
Cindy
Norther Ca, USA

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For some, Time Machine begins to perform as expected with a new external hard disk. But then the initial full backup or subsequent incremental backups fail. The user only later discovers the hard disk was still partitioned as Master Boot Record (MBR).
One article on Time Machine made this observation: “Virtually everybody will have to open Disk Utility and repartition the disk as APM or GUID. It doesn't really matter which one because the Time Machine disk will not be bootable anyway. APM allows a disk to boot a PowerPC, GUID allows the disk to boot an Intel processor but both are easily digestible by Time Machine on either kind of processor.” [http://www.girr.org/mac_stuff/backups.html]
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Connect the hard disk you wish to use for Time Machine backups.
Launch Disk Utility.
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Name the disk.
Format should be "Mac OS Extended (Journaled)".
Click "Options".
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Click "OK".
Click "Apply". Then click “Partition”.
Once the external hard disk is repartitioned, select it again in Time Machine preferences and use it for your backups. If you chose to create 2 partitions, then select the first partition for Time Machine backups, and the second for additional files/folders.
3) My hard drive is about 280 GB. What size should I buy.
Any TM backup drive should be +at least+ twice as large as your Macs internal hard disk.
Let us know if this resolves your issue.
Cheers!

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Hello,
I'm new to mac's but have seen Time Capsule. I'm a little confused...
Can I go to any shop and buy an external hard drive of say 500GB and then plug it in via USB and back my mac up with the Time Machine?
It doesn't have to be a 1TB Apple own product Time Capsule? Or, does it...?
Thank you,
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wild-weasel wrote:
And time-maschine really doesn't care, what else is on that drive, (It is not a jealous maschine) aslong as you have enough space left.
That's true, as far as it goes, but it's much, much better to partition the external HD, so Time Machine has it's own, exlusive space. See #3 in Time Machine - Frequently Asked Questions.
And just for clarity, Time Machine is the software built in to OSX that performs backups; a Time Capsule is a bit of Apple hardware that combines a wireless router and hard drive. Sometimes folks can get confused if you use the wrong term.

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