External Instrument plug-in and SysEx

Hi
Am I right in thinking that the External Instrument plug-in filters out SysEx during MIDI playback?
cheers
zib

I don't know offhand without checking it, but it wouldn't surprise me too much if it did, as there seem to be some limitation in the MIDI data that audio instrument channels pass.
If it does, you'll need to make up a regular instrument set to your external instrument's port/channel and put that on a track below your external instrument track, and move the sysex to that...

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